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18-06-2008
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#26 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
A sad but happy day I bet 
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18-06-2008
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#27 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by Alfa166 2.0
Yeah, how do you do that?
PM a mod?
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18-06-2008
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#28 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by Alfa166 2.0
So the only increased running cost is the extorsionate extra one thousand a year in road tax.
Well, actually it's a whopping £25 a year more at the moment, presuming your old TS was a '99 or '00. If it was newer than that, you'll be paying £0 more  . In 2010, you might be paying £200 more...but it's not quite an extra thousand a year...yet 
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18-06-2008
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#29 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
the post 2001 TS VED will double to about 420 from March 2009....
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18-06-2008
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#30 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by Pigfarmer
PM a mod?
Indeed  I think I have access to do it but BigFoot definitely does 
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18-06-2008
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#31 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Hi Stephen,
I hope you enjoy your TI as much as i do mine.
I have also been pondering over whether to change the suspension set up, and go with the Bilsteins.
Even though the TI set up is much more tigher and the handling is much improved over the pre-facelift cars, I still find the ride a bit fidgety at the back, and there is tendency to bottom out at times.
I look forward to reading your comments regarding the difference, when you sort out the Bilsteins.
Cheers....K
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18-06-2008
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
I once saw a super parked on that street and look where that got me!
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18-06-2008
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#33 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by Tony Rome
Well, actually it's a whopping £25 a year more at the moment, presuming your old TS was a '99 or '00. If it was newer than that, you'll be paying £0 more  . In 2010, you might be paying £200 more...but it's not quite an extra thousand a year...yet 
Stephen resides in Dublin - Different tax system that makes ours seem tame. As I understand it Stephen would have had to pay 2000Euros/year if he had not imported the car before end June 2008 but still has to pay a fair whack anyway. Upside is that their fuel is cheaper. He will no doubt confirm
Originally Posted by Quadcamboy
I once saw a super parked on that street and look where that got me!
 A Brera diesel will be available at some point in the future - At least you know your way! 
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18-06-2008
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#34 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by Dougie166
Stephen resides in Dublin - Different tax system that makes ours seem tame. As I understand it Stephen would have had to pay 2000Euros/year if he had not imported the car before end June 2008 but still has to pay a fair whack anyway. Upside is that their fuel is cheaper. He will no doubt confirm
I stand corrected  . No doubt the way we'll be going to (not the cheaper fuel...  ).
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18-06-2008
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Yes indeed, when I hear you girly men complaining about road tax I think, ha ha, girly men, you know nothing of what real road tax can be
Consider this also, girly men, just for the privelege of importing my own car for which I paid good money, I must hand over a further 30% (now 36%) of the open market sale price, in vehicle reg tax. So if I import a car that here costs, say, 15 k on a garage forecourt, I have to pay 5 k to the state.
Girly men I say ha ha ha
Last edited by stooge166 : 18-06-2008 at 17:49.
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18-06-2008
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#36 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by stooge166
just for the privelege of importing my own car for which I paid good money, I must hand over a further 30% (now 36%) of the open market sale price, in vehicle reg tax. So if I import a car that here costs, say, 15 k on a garage forecourt, I have to pay 5 k to the state.
One advantage of 166 low car guide prices I suppose - What open market figure did you agree with the state? No wonder you did not ask for a receipt!
Glad you are enjoying 
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19-06-2008
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#37 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Yes Dougie, a recieipt; I was on the road five minutes by the time I realised I had forgotten to ask for one.
I went down to the tax office on Monday but they did'nt have the 3.2 on the system, so they have to ask the oracle on the mountain  Should take them a few days  . I hope they check the Glass guide
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19-06-2008
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#38 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
I got my car from the UK last year, and the VRO office priced it to twice as much as I bought for, and 30% higher than the nearest model for sale from a dealer on Carzone. (my car wasn't in the system either, somebody who never saw the car decided how much it worth. the "experts" - a.k.a effing' eejits - in the VRO office couldn't even copy over the type of the car from the V5 form, I almost registered an A L P H A in Ireland)
You can only complain once you paid up, and they say the VRT then also go up after the complaint. I paid up, didn't complain, and wrote "spend it on hospital bills" on the back of the cheque.

you are what you race
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19-06-2008
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#39 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by stooge166
I went down to the tax office on Monday but they did'nt have the 3.2 on the system. I hope they check the Glass guide
Why didn't you just get a receipt from Dougie with half the amount you actually paid for it? Now you have to hope they decide on a low price for you. You might end up paying even more...  (see klapanciusz's reply)
Girly men? Rather that than pay loads of tax 
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19-06-2008
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by Tony Rome
Why didn't you just get a receipt from Dougie with half the amount you actually paid for it? Now you have to hope they decide on a low price for you. You might end up paying even more...  (see klapanciusz's reply)
Girly men? Rather that than pay loads of tax 
Doesn't matter what you paid for it; you could have received it as a gift. They charge based on what they conjure up as the value, that's it. 
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19-06-2008
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#41 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by stooge166
Doesn't matter what you paid for it; you could have received it as a gift. They charge based on what they conjure up as the value, that's it. 
Crazy concept! Just another good excuse to screw more taxes out of people, I suppose 
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19-06-2008
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#42 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
I thought that I was only the British goverment that did this and the rest of the world was a tax heven!
I'm sorry to here this. However I learnt a long time ago not to dewel on these unfair taxs to long otherwise you just end up bitter and twisted!
Anyway I'm sure it will be a small price to pay to be the owner of such a nice car.
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19-06-2008
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#43 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
On second thought could you say that you bought it as a non starter and therefore is worth alot less? as it need alot of work?
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19-06-2008
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#44 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by stu_the_flat
On second thought could you say that you bought it as a non starter and therefore is worth alot less? as it need alot of work?
 . Then they ask to take a look at it. "Oh, I've just this minute finished all the work" 
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20-06-2008
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#45 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Originally Posted by stu_the_flat
On second thought could you say that you bought it as a non starter and therefore is worth alot less? as it need alot of work?
Actually, you can do that. You import a car with a failed cambelt or gearbox etc. The taxable value is taken as the trade value of the car in that condition. Then you buy a recon unit.
However, we could never wish a failed timing belt or gearbox on the TI now could we.
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20-06-2008
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#46 (Post Link)
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Re: Bye Bye Ti
Now who was the chap with the hole in the gear box? Could he post it to ireland. I'm sure if you whacked that on the desk nobody would say its in good nick!
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20-06-2008
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#47 (Post Link)
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