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Agreed 100% - the 5 cylinder engine is a peach. I have a 5 cylinder fiat coupe 20v turbo as well - I do love a 5 cylinder and I too am not looking forward to heaving to change to a 4 in future - unless I do well enough to afford the guilia 510 hp jobbie
Yep, I do love the torque from my 2.4, it's bettered quite a few fast cars on A Roads. As said above, i can be going fast about 50 over limit) on motorway without realising!
I think I'll wait for the 280BHP giulia petrol one though I'll miss this beast...
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Yep, I do love the torque from my 2.4, it's bettered quite a few fast cars on A Roads. As said above, i can be going fast about 50 over limit) on motorway without realising!
I think I'll wait for the 280BHP giulia petrol one though I'll miss this beast...
280?! thought the best petrol short of the v6 was the tbi at 240??
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tbi isn't going in the giulia
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tbi isn't going in the giulia
hmmmm....dont know where I read that then...or if I even read it at all!

either way, I don't recall a 280hp option being available? would be good though
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According to Wikipedia, there will be a 2.0 with 276 hp.

I however mentioned this to my local dealer, who said that the information was wrong - there will be a 2.0 with 250 hp, with a Canadian version of the same car/engine with 350 hp. He said that that would be a collectible, as the numbers of this engine/set up would be the most limited (not including the QV, of course).

However, I don't know what to think.. better just wait and see what the main AR says in a few months.
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hmmmm....dont know where I read that then...or if I even read it at all!

either way, I don't recall a 280hp option being available? would be good though
I spoke to the guy at Goodwood and he said that there definitely would be one, but not until early next year. didnt mention anything about it being a special edition?
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I spoke to the guy at Goodwood and he said that there definitely would be one, but not until early next year. didnt mention anything about it being a special edition?
ah right, well...i've only just gotten my 159....so maybe in 5 years time or so I'll get a Guilia by which time bugs and the experience of others shall adequately inform my choice!
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Yep, I do love the torque from my 2.4, it's bettered quite a few fast cars on A Roads. As said above, i can be going fast about 50 over limit) on motorway without realising!
I think I'll wait for the 280BHP giulia petrol one though I'll miss this beast...
My remapped, de-EGR'd 2.4 (255/360 allegedly) has great torque for overtaking, but its heavily dependent on the slow-spooling turbo being up to speed. When pulling away from lights, or if I need a quick overtake, I'll clutch in, bring up the revs till the turbo gauge shows at least 0.8-1.2, then release the clutch. Presto, Launch Control!
The noise is easily the best diesel engine I've ever driven.
Looking forward to the 2.0 Giulia, but more realistically, the Jag XE looks more likely.
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My remapped, de-EGR'd 2.4 (255/360 allegedly) has great torque for overtaking, but its heavily dependent on the slow-spooling turbo being up to speed. When pulling away from lights, or if I need a quick overtake, I'll clutch in, bring up the revs till the turbo gauge shows at least 0.8-1.2, then release the clutch. Presto, Launch Control!
The noise is easily the best diesel engine I've ever driven.
Looking forward to the 2.0 Giulia, but more realistically, the Jag XE looks more likely.
Jag XE is also a very tasty car
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2.4 for me all day long.
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My remapped, de-EGR'd 2.4 (255/360 allegedly) has great torque for overtaking, but its heavily dependent on the slow-spooling turbo being up to speed. When pulling away from lights, or if I need a quick overtake, I'll clutch in, bring up the revs till the turbo gauge shows at least 0.8-1.2, then release the clutch. Presto, Launch Control!
The noise is easily the best diesel engine I've ever driven.
Looking forward to the 2.0 Giulia, but more realistically, the Jag XE looks more likely.
I've had been informed that without DPF delete those figures are difficult to achieve?

I've noticed away from the lights if your in a bit of a hurry can be a bit underwhelming. I thought that maybe my EGR was playing up (and it probably is) but I find for a quicker get-a-way you have to rev it a bit. I feel a bit of nana doing that though
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I've had been informed that without DPF delete those figures are difficult to achieve?

I've noticed away from the lights if your in a bit of a hurry can be a bit underwhelming. I thought that maybe my EGR was playing up (and it probably is) but I find for a quicker get-a-way you have to rev it a bit. I feel a bit of nana doing that though
well if it's an auto then you have the added inefficiency of power transfer through the torque converter....and the gearing is quite long in Alfas - so you can beef up the power but you'll still be at a disadvantage off the line against something with shorter gearing...adding 20% torque to your car at the wheels through engine improvement is easily wiped out by a 20% shorter gearing of the beemer next to you for example
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I think all Diesels are a bit slow off of the line.

You have relatively few revs to play with, and that makes 1st gear seem very short.

Also the engine is relatively slow to spin up compared to a petrol, and the torque gives little help because if you really go for it the wheels just spin.
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My remapped, de-EGR'd 2.4 (255/360 allegedly) has great torque for overtaking, but its heavily dependent on the slow-spooling turbo being up to speed. When pulling away from lights, or if I need a quick overtake, I'll clutch in, bring up the revs till the turbo gauge shows at least 0.8-1.2, then release the clutch. Presto, Launch Control!
The noise is easily the best diesel engine I've ever driven.
Looking forward to the 2.0 Giulia, but more realistically, the Jag XE looks more likely.
Mine is not an auto and neither am I that bothered about Traffic light GP. Just something I noticed and at the time it was a very quick off the line BMW.. i3
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Mine is not an auto and neither am I that bothered about Traffic light GP. Just something I noticed and at the time it was a very quick off the line BMW.. i3
yeh off line is just a good way to knacker clutches and tires

30 to 50 and 40 to 70 are much more important to me and in that range the 2.4 is a powerhouse
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torque limiter in 1st and 2nd gear (to protect the drivetrain) and as more will just end up with spinning tyres. Q4 could launch faster but is heavier...
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torque limiter in 1st and 2nd gear (to protect the drivetrain) and as more will just end up with spinning tyres. Q4 could launch faster but is heavier...
That makes sense, 1st definitely feels like it runs out a bit... artificially. Plus, at my NCT (Irish MOT) it weighed in at a beefy 1,723kg, so lots of weight to overcome.
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That makes sense, 1st definitely feels like it runs out a bit... artificially. Plus, at my NCT (Irish MOT) it weighed in at a beefy 1,723kg, so lots of weight to overcome.
I've had 2 159 ti's, one a 1.9 and the other a 2.4.

2007 159 2.4 - 42.3mpg
2008 159 1.9 - 43.9mpg

mpg wise the 1.9 is better in town, but they are similar on the motorway. I didn't keep the 1.9 long. I think the 2.4 is worth the difference.
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