Originally Posted by Hunter
I've done 10k miles in my 159 now and so far (other than air trapped in the brake lines!) it's not missed a beat.
Now this is interesting as it was before Hunter's brake issues really came to a head and his awful dealings with Alfa UK and a dealer to try and get things sorted. Check other threads for that. It seemed to be down to earlier 06 models although a few later 06 model owners have reported the same issue. None in the 07 range so far I think?
Basically if you have a good dealer then you're sort of ok, but Alfa UK really need to sort themselves out.
I have to say though being a dad it did put me off the 159 for the moment but it's not the only reason why. I am on my second 156 so it's not that I hate Alfas. But having had a host of problems on both 156s and now coupled with reading how the Alfa UK still treats it's customers (even loyal customers) and the brake issues it has put me off for now. Maybe the upgraded 159s will change that for me. Who knows.
If you want reliability, buy Japanese.
If you want a real car, get the 159
These Alfa reliability threads are going to run and run.
If I was being objective as best as I can, I would say most members have fairly reliable 159s with only minor issues and can agree that other marques will have similar minor issues.
But the point is, you are basically implying that Alfas aren't going to be reliable. Time and time again I read this phrase on the forum. Things like "You want reliability, get a Lexus", "If you want lower CO2 emissions and better MPG get a German marque" etc.
It seems everyone is agreeing that it's ok to have an Alfa and put up with badly built cars and poor customer service from a dealer or Alfa UK? That is not the message you want to be really putting out to the public. More importantly it's the message we are giving Alfa UK, that we will buy their cars and put up with any faults and poor customer service.
If there is any problem with any Alfa car or the dealer or Alfa UK itself, we should be hammering the message to Alfa UK that it is not acceptable behaviour or the competent level of service we expect from them. We shouldn't be basically rolling over and taking it up the backside just so we can drive our Alfas. Lexus raised the bar in customer service and if they can do it, Alfa can do it as well.
You might say it's my loss if I don't get a 159, but it's not my loss - it's Alfa's loss in business terms. They will always be more of the niche end of the mainstream market players if they continue this way.
I want Alfa to be one of the best brands out there but ATM the Alfa has not had the big leap forward I had hoped. They need to try harder.