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My wife and I are about embark on buying a Brera, so glad we found this buyers guide.
Just going back to the dealer with these little nuggets.
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Bought recently before seeing this guide, car has faulty gearbox (as per garage), i assumed it was a wheel bearing as the noise came form left front, a slight whirring, only became apparent once up to 20-30 mph, very faint, it got louder as car got faster, but if i put the gear stick into neutral, noise never changed, the noise didnt seem to get louder as the revs climbed, only when car got quicker, everything to me said it was to do with the wheels turning , no change under braking so i ruled out sticky brakes, and as i said it didnt seem related to engine revs and no difference even when gearbox was disengaged, i have been quoted £1k and advised its a bearing, what are the signs of this fault and more importantly what options are there in regards to a fix, i don't see the point of putting the exact same thing back in( albeit a brand new one) if its going to fail again, are their any options out their regarding increasing the lifespan beofre next failure ?
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Hi Guys,

Bought recently before seeing this guide, car has faulty gearbox (as per garage), i assumed it was a wheel bearing as the noise came form left front, a slight whirring, only became apparent once up to 20-30 mph, very faint, it got louder as car got faster, but if i put the gear stick into neutral, noise never changed, the noise didnt seem to get louder as the revs climbed, only when car got quicker, everything to me said it was to do with the wheels turning , no change under braking so i ruled out sticky brakes, and as i said it didnt seem related to engine revs and no difference even when gearbox was disengaged, i have been quoted £1k and advised its a bearing, what are the signs of this fault and more importantly what options are there in regards to a fix, i don't see the point of putting the exact same thing back in( albeit a brand new one) if its going to fail again, are their any options out their regarding increasing the lifespan beofre next failure ?
Sounds the same as mine.
I have a 2.2 that shares the same crap M32 gearbox as your 1.9.
However, mine's been like that for 2 and a half years now and has perhaps got very slightly noisier though it's difficult to tell when I'm using the car day in, day out.
If it is the M32, the experts say it'll deteriorate quickly, probably within 1k miles.
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Hmmm Blanking EGR on all 159 diesels?

I bought a 5 yr old 159 jtdm 8 V with 80000 km. Although it drove excellent I had it completely serviced by our local Ital car specialist. This maintenance included cambelt, other v belts, waterpump, injectors, airco refill, etc.

Can someone advise on the often mentioned EGR blanking?
Is ithis necessary on the 8 valve type engine as well?
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I bought a 5 yr old 159 jtdm 8 V with 80000 km. Although it drove excellent I had it completely serviced by our local Ital car specialist. This maintenance included cambelt, other v belts, waterpump, injectors, airco refill, etc.

Can someone advise on the often mentioned EGR blanking?
Is ithis necessary on the 8 valve type engine as well?
It is not necessary, but very advantageous! It will help the performance and help to prevent more soot etc getting into the manifold, which results in more problems down the line.

You can also fit a restrictor plate (a blanking plate with a small hole on), will give much of the benefit without having to map the engine light out.
Available in e-bay (have a search on this forum for links and advise).
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Thanks, Giblets!
Will the Alfa dealer do this job as well?
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Thanks, Giblets!
Will the Alfa dealer do this job as well?
There is an official Alfa restrictor plate, but doubt most dealers would do it (or would charge an hours labour for it), very much a 10min diy job
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Going to look at a 111k 159 2.4 TI on Monday, glad i found this thread, the owner says it has a part service history but what part im not sure, what needs asking/checking when i go.

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Thanx.
Seemed that my Italcar dealer /owner as well had it done to his own Alfa.

This afternoon I get the EGR blanked + a chiptuning, but not at an official Alfa dealer..
Are there negative consequences if the sootfilter is not removed?
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The gas boot struts that hold the boot open fail on the saloon cars - the ends crack. Very cheap and DIY repair with better than original available at 12.99 +VAT here:-

Alfa Romeo 159 Tailgate/Boot Gas Strut - 60680087 2443TD

If they are broken you will notice that the boot opens more than it should and you can see the cracked ends. The ones I have listed have steel end sockets rather than plastic that the originals have.

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Blue & Me (B&M) not a great system in the first place. Marrying Microsoft Windows with Italian electronics was never going to be a success.

Make sure you see it working. If not with your phone then at least with the owner's. Some are an easy fix but some are corrupted beyond repair and if it isn't working it is less than 50/50 that you will be able to restore it.

If it is working think long and hard before attempting to up date it. Almost all B&M units are bricked (broken beyond repair) while attempting an update. Your CD and radio will still work but your phone connection and playing audio from phone or other USB device is lost forever or until you can find a replacement unit.
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Some front subframes are now suffering severe rust with one or two now bad enough to be MOT failures. These subframes are bolted to the body not welded so can be replaced.

Some rust and some don't. Check it.
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Red or green power steering fluid. Do a search and read the threads then make up your own mind.
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Sounds the same as mine.
I have a 2.2 that shares the same crap M32 gearbox as your 1.9.
However, mine's been like that for 2 and a half years now and has perhaps got very slightly noisier though it's difficult to tell when I'm using the car day in, day out.
If it is the M32, the experts say it'll deteriorate quickly, probably within 1k miles.
Cheers Lussoman,
yea its in garage getting done, just thought i'd bite the bullet, its an alfa indi who was very fair and said it would go for a many thousand miles without any problems, it would just get louder but as far as self destructing or failing completely, he said low risk you'd need to do serious miles before that would happen, my main concern is the fact im bieng told theres no mod or other option than paying a load of cash £500 to £1k putting a known faulty part back in the car, seems mad, theres no alternative or solution to this problem of gearbox not being lubricated properly then overheats which from threads on here seems to be the issue, so peeeed off, i love my car and treat it well, which is why its getting gearbox done now, i haven't been able to enjoy the car properly since i got it, also im getting remap, nothing crazy just enough to iron out the kinks, and give a little extra shove, standard as we know the car is too heavy for 150 or 130 bhp, but as its not as heavy as the 2.4 or 3.2 so a little extra bhp and torque will make it not really fast but fast enough for me, but seems mad knowing the gearbox is weak to put extra power through it, i know the box is in many powerful cars, VX VXR and faster alfas than mine etc, to get back on topic, any buyers out there, be aware a slight wirring or noise of any kind from left front of car should be treated with extreme caution, theres no easy cheap fix if it is the gearbox.
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Cheers Lussoman,
yea its in garage getting done, just thought i'd bite the bullet, its an alfa indi who was very fair and said it would go for a many thousand miles without any problems, it would just get louder but as far as self destructing or failing completely, he said low risk you'd need to do serious miles before that would happen
It's bewildering with all the contradicting advice on these boxes.
I've been told by a few people and read a number of times that once the whining starts it wouldn't last long at all.
If what your Alfa indie says is true then I guess my 'noise' could well be the M32.
I've probably done about 10-12k miles since I first noticed it.
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Worth addin drivers seat base in higher mileage cars. This will cost you £300 to replace the cushion at the stealership or £130 at a reputable car trimmers to repair.
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Buying Alfa Romeo 159

Hello

I am writing in Croatian, I decided to buy 159 alfa exclusively 2.4jtdm 210cv, it is hard to find samples with "Ti"" equipment but some I found, I was wondering whether it is acceptable to buy from approximately 150 000 km, if it's full and the you profitable?
This is one of the few that I have found to match my taste, technical requirements and price above.
If we can possibly help advice please?!

I found this and I was wondering what you think of the same

Alfa Romeo 159 2.4 JTDM 20V DPF Lim. ti Leder 19 Zoll Sport als Limousine in Schönaich bei Böblingen
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Just bought a 2006 2.4 159. Where is the OBDII port on the 159?
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Just bought a 2006 2.4 159. Where is the OBDII port on the 159?
With the fuses - below the steering wheel and to the right.
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What's the timing chain change interval on the 2.2 petrol Brera ?

How well does the clutch hold up on this model ?
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The gas boot struts that hold the boot open fail on the saloon cars - the ends crack. Very cheap and DIY repair with better than original available at 12.99 +VAT here:-

Alfa Romeo 159 Tailgate/Boot Gas Strut - 60680087 2443TD

If they are broken you will notice that the boot opens more than it should and you can see the cracked ends. The ones I have listed have steel end sockets rather than plastic that the originals have.
Thanks for this info; filed for future reference. The struts on my Ti are holding up but the ones on my old JTS broke as you describe. The design means they do way too much work!
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I've had an 8v 1.9 Vectra and wanted a 159 not sure now though

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I was debating the 159 on a 58 with the 1.9 16v lump or a 08 2.4 lump reading all these costly issues I'm not sure if I want one now lol might buy a Lexus instead lol
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I was debating the 159 on a 58 with the 1.9 16v lump or a 08 2.4 lump reading all these costly issues I'm not sure if I want one now lol might buy a Lexus instead lol
Whilst I won't guarantee it, even the Toyota/Lexus might have issues.
Firstly, Internetz are full of problematic issues. As you know people don't normally come on to tell everyone how good something is.

I've had problems with VW's, Audis, Mazdas, Hondas, Ford's, Opels, Renaults, Volvos and so on.
Maintenance today and yesterday is largely what makes or breaks.

Good luck with whatever you buy
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I have a 2.2 and had no problems with it. Just had to replace all the parking sensors but did it myself costing £60. Mechanically it has been sound
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