Originally Posted by Kevin Slegg
I'm not trying to justify my 156; as before its launch I had every anticipation of running to the dealer to order the 159; but I have to say I'm personally disappointed with it to date.
Apart from the VW Passat, the Alfa is appreaciably heavier than its direct competition - and whilst I accept that this might be because it 'newer' and therefore meets the current crash standards after the Autocar road test of the Brera I am wondering exactly how heavy the 159 is???
And sorry, I disagree with you - Alfa is known as being a 'sports' brand; with the 156 they certainly proved they can make sports saloons. They should have been able to produce a car that is safe, but still retaining the Alfa 'core' values of being good looking, charasmatic, good handling (with a chuckability factor) and with an engine which begs to be red-lined.
I can`t comment on sales in your country as I don`t live there
, but again all I can
tell you is that I see plenty of 159s already in Belgium, lots of my colleagues are ordering one, Fiat group released a press statement attributing strong sales to GP & 159 and finally my own dealer tells me they are selling very nicely.
As for weight, here`s some examples to show that most people are talking out of their *** when they say the 159 is oh-so heavy:
Lexus IS 220d 1575 kg vs Alfa 159 2.4 JTDm 1630 kg
Power-to-weight 0,112 HP/kg vs 0,123 HP/kg
Audi A4 2.7 TDI 1540kg vs Alfa 159 2.4 JTDm 1630 kg
Power-to-weight 0,117 HP/kg vs 0,123 HP/kg
BMW 325d 1525 kg vs Alfa 159 2.4 JTDm 1630 kg
Power-to-weight 0,129 HP/kg vs 0,123 HP/kg
Basically people just picked up on some journo comments and are repeating the same line over and over. Reality is that the base engines are a bit light for the car, but then again that is true for most cars (a 318d isn`t exactly blisteringly fast either) and the 3.2 Q4 is a bit of a porker, but then again most V6 4WD cars are. I`d say the biggest missed opportunity for the 159 is RWD, not weight.
Lighter cars do handle better, but the same holds for cars with a stiffer chassis. The 159 will outhandle everything bar a 3-series. So basically if you want the lightest, fastest, best-handling car then get a 3-series. But then you are probably visiting the wrong forum. BMW has the rest of the automotive world licked when it comes to middle-class saloons - why would Alfa be an exception? They come an honourable second best, I can live with that as an Alfa enthousiast.