Just last month I went through the choice of TI or non TI, 1.9 or 2.0, and even though I originally wanted to keep the price down and go for a non-TI, having looked into it I would very much recommend if you possibly can manage it, that you go for a TI 2.0.
Reasons for TI:
- Even with the later models you will typically get a much higher spec than a Lusso. Just getting the 19" wheels and tyres would cost you £1000, let alone the bigger brakes, suspension, bodykit, trim, heated seats etc that are standard on all TIs.
- You could find it quite hard to sell a non-TI in the future. Later sales were almost all TIs so that's what you will be competing against when you come to sell. You may find that ou have to discount quite heavily to attract buyers to a non-TI; i.e. it's likely to suffer from worse %age depreciation.
- TI suspension and handling are GREAT. Our 2010 TI has never bottomed out (front or back) in 2,000 miles. Handling is great and comfort is really good, especially given it's a sports set up. Lovely to drive, doesn't feel like an estate at all. That said, Lusso is supposed to be pretty good. Comfort on both TI and non-TI may suffer at high mileages as the springs wear (so that's a reason to go for lower mileage if at all possible).
- The big TI brakes are great. Very reassuring, more than enough stopping power.
Engines - 1.9 or 2.0?
- 1.9 is known to suffer from chocolate clutch syndrome. Annoying, potentially dangerous at junctions etc, and expensive to fix. The 2.0 actually has the gearbox and clutch from the 2.4 which is more than enough to handle the torque. We've found it issue free and I don't think I've seen any threads here on clutch/gearbox issues for the 2.0.
- DPF - these EU mandated disasters are a problem for all manufacturers. However, the 2.0 has the better designed close coupled DPF which is mostly trouble free judging by this forum (and I've never had an issue with ours, not a single warning light or rough running). The 1.9 is known to sometimes suffer from DPF and EGR issues (though you might be okay if you only do a little town/traffic driving, or if you fork out for a DPF and EGR delete and remap (£500-700ish))
- As such, you're probably going to save money (due to repair costs and less need for a DPF/EGR delete) in the long run if you go for a 2.0.
- As for turbo lag - the 2.0 is not laggy at all IMO. The smaller turbo'd 2.0TDCI 136bhp we just had in our Kuga had worse lag and a tight boost/torque band which wasn't always smooth to drive. The 2.0 also revs more like a petrol (5k+), and the power band is nice and wide for a turbo diesel. The 2.0 pulls well low down. Doesn't bog down anywhere near as much as our 136bhp Kuga.
I know cost may be prohibitive at purchase but I honestly think it will be cheaper in the long run to go for a 2.0TI.
Whatever you buy, I'd recommend using Diesel Rhino - there's a thread on it in this lounge. I've found it really improved the engine - and it's likely to help avoid DPF and EGR issues.
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Last edited by Commanderfish; 28-08-13 at 10:16.