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I cant wait for these to be ready, I need to get the bumper off. I currently have a 13 SMP side light bulb lost in the front of the head light unit and now as of today a new style COB 'lost' in the back of the same head light unit. FML. And no spare time to get the bumper off for at least 5 weeks.
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I cant wait for these to be ready, I need to get the bumper off. I currently have a 13 SMP side light bulb lost in the front of the head light unit and now as of today a new style COB 'lost' in the back of the same head light unit. FML. And no spare time to get the bumper off for at least 5 weeks.
I've lost a few side light LEDs in the front of my head lights and you can can take out the larger bulb below it and use one of these to retrieve it. Quite a handy gadget for 4.

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Loving the Halos, my only feedback would be if the ring round the indicator could come back on more gradually?
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Hi, jaba very interested in having the angel lights, are you providing them?? thanks
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Its still a work in progress....

The viability of the project is not yet 100% guaranteed though and it may yet be canned in favour of an easy life.
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Its still a work in progress....

The viability of the project is not yet 100% guaranteed though and it may yet be canned in favour of an easy life.
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I'd be interested in some, currently looking at for a 159..
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Let me echo that....

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hello sorry i was reading posts but lost track on how the halo project went, can anyone tell me what happend?
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Major Update

So here we are, the lights work, they are stable and trouble free and I am pretty happy overall with the project. We do, however have a pretty big problem that we just can't solve....

*** P R O D U C T I O N ***

Its a simple one really. In order to make a cost effective, easy to fit replacement that comes with warranty and support and returns policies etc all requires us to be something we are not, a professional manufacturing business specialising in after-market car parts.

As it stands, The time and effort required to build a set of Halo's is astonishing and its time we don't have, nor could justify giving a way for a couple of pounds per hour, so realistically, I think this project is dead.


I'll put it into perspective...

With all the processes and parts as they are now it takes me about 4-6 hours to assemble & test the circuit boards which isn't too bad, but still isn't "china fast"

However....

It takes Coxy nearly 30 hours to take a set of brand new headlights, split them open, wire them up and install the rings, circuit boards, test them and get them ready to ship. That as you can guess is a pretty unacceptable chunk of time for anyone to offer for free!

The price point that we started at was around 500 which essentially left Coxy and I with beer money, and it just wont work as it closer to 1000 worth of effort.

So with that astronomical figure in mind we are left with only 1 option.

Supply a kit!

Its not ideal, but it solves a multitude of issues. I could supply 2 boards, 6 rings, wires, connectors & a power supply for a figure of say 275 (I still need to price all the parts properly). You would then need to buy yourself two new headlights (ebay have new ones for about 80 quid each). and you can set about splitting them and installing them on your own time! Buying new means they will split in an oven quite easily, but you could save money by trying to split the ones already on your car, its your choice.

That way your kit could be warranted by me on a parts replacement basis, so if a controller or ring fails, I'll post you a new one. <- As long as the damage isn't caused by say water ingress due to bad installation that is!!

Coxy may be coaxed into building you a full headlight set with your purchased kit, but you would have to negotiate your own deal to remunerate his time direct with him.

Its not ideal, but its the only way forward. As I said at the start, we are not an after market manufacturer, we are just enthusiasts mucking about with toys for our cars.


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That is a huge shame.

But understandable!

My DIY skills end with doing the lego with the kids...
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Sounds like the right approach for such a niche product! I am def interested I am actively looking for my new 159 now! Keep us updated
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sounds fair enough Jay, a LOT of work has gone into these and it's been a facinating read! Kits do sound like the way forward for you both and I'll still be purchasing it! (may need some guidance on wiring/splitting the headlights though!)
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I wouldn't mind gauging the interest in a kit form so I can think about a production run on the new design circuit boards vs using the first generation ones I have left.

I think Coxy and I would be able to put some pretty decent instructions together for the kits and its actually not that complicated, its just time consuming!

We literally know every aspect of the parts list from what type of sealant to re-seal the lights together with to the glue that you should use to hold the rings in place.
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Would love to go with a DIY kit myself, would source a second hand lamp set from breakers anyway as I want to do some carbon fibre work on the lamps.

Have had 156 lamps apart plenty of times so got a fair idea of what am letting myself in for.
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If I can get to 10 people, I'll get some new boards made up as it keeps the unit cost down when the run is higher.
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I too am still interested in a kit.

Will I have to do any soldering?

Where does the major time lie?
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No soldering is technically required but it is preferred. You could just clip/crimp the wires inside the headlight but soldering is the most effective long term option.

The circuit boards all have connectors on that would be supplied already attached to lengths of wire ready for attachment to your lights so that bit is easy.

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Its mostly Cutting, Glueing & Cooking skills!

I failed on cooking part myself after melting my test headlight in the oven trying to separate it! Fortunately, Coxy has refined the process, timing and temps! Gas mark 5 ahoy!!!
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I'd be very interested in a kit. love a little DIY project
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Will these be using the other resistors you mentioned to stop the sequencing?
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No soldering is technically required but it is preferred. You could just clip/crimp the wires inside the headlight but soldering is the most effective long term option.

The circuit boards all have connectors on that would be supplied already attached to lengths of wire ready for attachment to your lights so that bit is easy.

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Its mostly Cutting, Glueing & Cooking skills!

I failed on cooking part myself after melting my test headlight in the oven trying to separate it! Fortunately, Coxy has refined the process, timing and temps! Gas mark 5 ahoy!!!
I hope it's smaller than it looks on this 28" screen or there maybe a fitting issue!
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Will these be using the other resistors you mentioned to stop the sequencing?
Not sure what you mean by that one mate?

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I hope it's smaller than it looks on this 28" screen or there maybe a fitting issue!
haha, yeah, they fit neatly in a little box you attach to the underside of the headlight where the OEM Xenon ballast would go.
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I have found a really nice automotive 12v 10 second delay off relay that would ensure that the lights stayed on during the engine crank and stopped the double start issue. Thing is, its 40 compared to a standard relay that is 4

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Ah, that's more like it! Yeah, not sure yet, still need to do all the costings out. It was bloody pricey that relay!
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