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Yep - used the link above. I just couldn't find any way that they'd fit through. They're a decent round shape, and so there's minimal lining up required. I've had to buy another set of the 13s now to replace the missing one!

They did look good though - certainly lit up the engine bay!
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Your a more patient man than me mate!! After reading this I dashed to my letter box and found the wonderful envelope of LED goodness waiting for me

1) Its not that cold
2) Doing this in the dark is no picnic

Ok, so here is the thing you need to be careful of. The round end with the circle of LEDs is fractionally too large to go through the hole into the light unit. That said, I managed to take a fraction off it all the way round with a sharpening block and after that they fitted just right, so you need to be prepared to do some "light" excuse the pun, modifications
Dammit - I just ordered a new set of the 13 LEDs!

I'll try filing them down at the weekend. I'd really like to be able to fit these in!
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Bad news - unfortunately they do not fit. They're a couple of mm wider than my old ones and are frustratingly just too big.
Grab some wet n dry, or fine sandpaper. I used a sharpening block as it was handy give it a couple of minutes all the way round the edge of the round PCB being careful not to get the LEDs.

Bingo, they fit perfect. It must be 0.1 or 0.2mm too wide max.
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Must admit Jay, they do look pretty good. However, can you still see the indicator flashing when they're on? Look like they might be too bright!
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I think its more of an effect of my camera mate. They are fine to look at and you can see the indicator bulb even when its not lit, so when its on it will be fine. Its just the camera makes it look like a set of HIDs on full with the auto correction of white balance I think. best example of the actual brightness is the ones where they look blue, in those you can see the indicator bulb and inside the reflector, but honest, its not that blue!
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Grab some wet n dry, or fine sandpaper. I used a sharpening block as it was handy give it a couple of minutes all the way round the edge of the round PCB being careful not to get the LEDs.

Bingo, they fit perfect. It must be 0.1 or 0.2mm too wide max.
This has just determined what I'm doing tomorrow night...!

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Thanks for the pics jay. Not sure if they are less blue than the 8's im currently using. What do u reckon? Im looking for less blue more white
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Thanks for the pics jay. Not sure if they are less blue than the 8's im currently using. What do u reckon? Im looking for less blue more white
These are on par with the 8's as far as I can tell. I have the 8's in the puddles on mine (i think) and they look about the same. The 8's might be slightly whiter, but its hard to tell as they are diffused in the doors and not in the sidelights.

From a colour perspective, if that's your only motivation, I would say stay with the 8's, as from memory these were the closest to a stock white we found.
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Stop / Tail Light Update:

I was digging around this morning and found these:
Bulbs: ALFA ROMEO / 159 SALOON / 2008 (08)

380 Super Bright 360 degree bulb in Red and White with 92 SMD LEDs, this bulb is designed to upgrade the standard 380 twin filament stop/tail bulb in your vehicle to give a much brighter light. These bulbs are canbus compatible so are designed to prevent bulb warning lights in newer vehicles with sensitive ECU systems.

This fantastic new lighting technology introduces the following benefits:

* Ultra bright 480 Lumens in white and 220 lumens in white
* Wattage - White:7.2W and Red:3.9W
* Current - White:500MA and Red:550MA
* Immediate response on/off
* 50,000 hour bulb life
* Requires less than 1 Watt power
* Vibration resistant

They are a bit pricey, but look like they could do the trick! I think I may get white rather than red though as there seems to be a big difference in the lumens value between white and red (I am assuming the white/white in the write-up is a typo based on measured wattage)

This site also has some viable options for indicators, but again, a bit expensive so may leave it till next month given I have had to replace my HID's and sides this month!!!!

To do the rear end from this site would be around 120 quid by my reckoning given you would need 4 x 380 2 x 382 & 2 x 581 to complete the stop/tail/reverse/fog/indicator set-up.


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Looks interesting, but I think I'd wait and see how someone else gets on first before having a go myself...
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Top advice from Jay. I filed down the 24 LED units as much as I dared, and then tried again. They fitted just fine.

The HIDs for comparison are 35W 6000K. These new LEDs are definitely less blue than the 13 piece LEDs they replaced, but they're still slightly more blue than the HID units. I've artificially lowered the exposure on a couple of them to enhance the difference.

They're a definite improvement, and are noticeably brighter. To the point now where this is as far as I think I'd want to take sidelights. I'd be interested in some LED indicators but that can wait a bit now.

Like a few others here I've ordered some 5000K 55W HIDs (from the other thread) and it will be interesting to see how they look alongside the noticeably bluer sidelights. I've also ordered a pair of the new 120% ring Xenon H1s to use as full beam. Now the nights are settling in I used full beam for the first time in ages the other night, and it just looks yellow next to the HIDs.
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Can you still see your indicators flash ok in night and daylight.
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Yes, very easily. The yellow indicators completely dominate as soon as they come on, and the LED is visible only as a point of white light.
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Yup they look very good

I have HIDs and my side lights look so yellow next to them looks like i need to upgrade
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would anybody be able to post a video of the brake lights and indicator lights?

I already have Xenons on my Brera, but Ive been tinkering with the idea of getting LED lights for the rest of the car.
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24's LED Sides now fitted. Glad I read up on the access problems first. Once you know how they go its quite an easy job. As previous posts I had to file them down a touch to fit.
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24 LED side's are producing canbus errors on both sides for me

Reading with a DMM, they are each 248 ohms, does that sound about right? The 8's are about 220 ohms, and I was getting an error on only one of those.

Is my car being hypersensitive, or are 3 of the 4 supposedly error free LED 'bulbs' duff?
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I got a canbus error on one of mine after a couple of days, but the ebay seller sent me a replacement, so going to swap it out today.

....anyone else getting this issue? is it a few bad eggs or a bad design do we think.
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would anybody be able to post a video of the brake lights and indicator lights?

I already have Xenons on my Brera, but Ive been tinkering with the idea of getting LED lights for the rest of the car.
Hi Alex, I am not sure anyone on this thread has done a full canbus type, like for like replacement with LEDs yet. I know one guy had done a full LED conversion, but took the "additional resistor" road to do it, which is what we are trying to avoid in this thread.

I posted a link to a site that had a series of like for like canbus replacement options, but a total rear end swap would be circa 120 so as far as I am aware, no one has tried it yet

PS, its on my Christmas list, but many more purchases are ahead of it at the minute!
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I got a canbus error on one of mine after a couple of days, but the ebay seller sent me a replacement, so going to swap it out today.

....anyone else getting this issue? is it a few bad eggs or a bad design do we think.
No issues on mine so far
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OK, both of mine, and the replacement threw canbus errors. - not impressed at all!!!!

I have also now fitted my new 55w 5000K HID kit and the only LED sides that look even remotely close to them is the original 8 LED sides, so I have switched back to them, and put the 24 LED sides in my puddles.

Not sure what is going on with the 24's but exercise caution as either there are a lot of bad apples in the batch or some of our cars on-board computers are very sensitive.
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No issues with mine so far.
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24 LED side's are producing canbus errors on both sides for me

Reading with a DMM, they are each 248 ohms, does that sound about right? The 8's are about 220 ohms, and I was getting an error on only one of those.

Is my car being hypersensitive, or are 3 of the 4 supposedly error free LED 'bulbs' duff?
I have gone back to the ebay seller to ask for some advice. It may be that they dont have enough load on them for our cars. Incidentally they make great puddle lights very bright!
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