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Do they actually light up ? but you still get the message ?

They have to be in the correct way or they don't light up and you will get the message
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There are these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-T10-4-S...item4174da3dd2

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-ERROR-F...item51a19866bc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-ERROR-F...item4611268dc5

I've not tried any of these myself but they all say can bus friendly.

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Yeah they are flashing very nicely actually (ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting) , however that error message still appears, and I´m wondering what is the issue here. Im thinking of going to store where they have been bought and try to swap them for some others, or just dont think about it and order those already posted in previous comments from ebay .
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So today I removed LEDs and installed them back again. However error message was persisting. So I´ve decided to go back to store where I bought them and get some new or stronger ones or just somthing different. They looked to me kinda confused so they rather gave me my money back After that I went to another store and asked what kind of canbus LEDs they have. Imagine!! They were selling there 3 LED canbus T10 bulb for freaking 15euro!! So of course i dint buy it im not insane as anywhere on the net you can get cheaper and better.
So I have decided that the best choice will be to order those LEDs from ebay previously posted in this topic so ill be sure they are gonna work as they have been tested by you guys.

and FYI: these were the LED bulbs showing errorr message anyway, I really dont recommed usage of 4 LED in side lamps then:
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---- Minor LED improvements ----

I was not happy with the amount of light being produced from the 42mm festoon type bulbs used in the boot after my full LED conversion, so I decided to see the latest eBay had to offer.

I came accross these: Festoon 42mm C10W SV8,5 interior WHITE LED CREE 5W CAN BUS FERRARI

I was intrigued by the design, specifically in the single cree style high power LED being run by a small surface mount voltage converter and what looked like a mini coil, in essence a small LED driver and regulator circuit. This signalled to me that the bulbs would likley be both bright and good quality so I bought a pair to take a look at.

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They were easy to install as per my prior interior lighting guide, so I dropped one in the boot to see what the difference was:

Before:

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After:

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The camera was a Glalaxy S4 smartphone which is terrible at night shots, so forget the fact you cant see anything and instead focus on the difference! There is way more light out of these new style festoons than the old 8 LED SMD5050 ones I was using.

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What I will say though, is that I kept my interior lighting, inside the cabin the same as I don't like it too bright in there! The 8 LED units are perfectly fine for my interior needs so unless you like daylight in the cabin, stick with lower power units!

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Ha-Ha you beat me to it !

I also had a look around to see what I could find complement the additional light of the Project Halo headlights and found these.

60w 1000lm Amber indicator bulb

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To say they are a little brighter than the standard bulbs is a little understatement.

And you already know about these main beam bulbs 1800lm full LED

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These are also very bright and the best colour match to the after market HID we've found so far

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Assuming you meant these :http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60w-LED-IN...item4aca5597ec

They look interesting, if not VERY BRIGHT!!!!!

I already use uprated LED indicator bulbs: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3207771003...ht_2406wt_1165

Which should be more than powerful enough for the xtra light given that we dim the outers and switch off the centre rings when they are on.
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Assuming you meant these :http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/60w-LED-IN...item4aca5597ec

They look interesting, if not VERY BRIGHT!!!!!

I already use uprated LED indicator bulbs: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3207771003...ht_2406wt_1165

Which should be more than powerful enough for the xtra light given that we dim the outers and switch off the centre rings when they are on.
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Yes they are the ones. I was looking to convert the whole headlight to LED but just cant drag myself away from the amount of light the HID throw out.

Do you think these are just to much
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100W-12V-X...item3cc38c3013
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Do you think these are just to much
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100W-12V-X...item3cc38c3013
Yup, without a doubt!

55w is already on the limit of visible acceptability.

Under ECE regulations, H7 bulbs must emit between 1350 and 1650 lumens at 13.2v. Under US regulations, H7 bulbs must emit between 1188 and 1512 lumens at 12.8v.

35w HID H7's are about 3300 lumens
55w HID H7's are about 4300 lumens

100w will be ridiculous!

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I just checked, 100w HIDs are around 8000 lumens. That's just nuts!

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Weird, I ordered two of those same festoons to go in the SW boot only this morning.
LED tech seems to be moving at a fair old pace now.
I've done sides and puddles with the 24SMD, glove box has a 5SMD but will replace with another 24SMD.
I'd dearly love to do the roof mounted interiors, I would buy Bojo tools (I assume the 10 piece kit is best..?), but please reassure me (a bit of a klutz) that it's a reasonably easy job with a bit of time and patience.....;-)
Any thoughts on fogs? There are things like this now
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-H1-50W-...#ht_2685wt_967
but I worry about dimensions both of hole in back of reflector and the space inside the reflector.

Thnaks again Jay and Coxy for your brilliant (ha, geddit?) guide to LED's, they do make a vast difference.
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The interiors are easy mate, don't fear the roof! just get in there with the bojos and apply leverage. Mine come off in seconds now I have no fear towards it!

here is an interior guide that may help: Jabablog » Alfa 159 TI Full LED Conversion – Interior Guide

I dont rate any of the current LED alternatives to H1 bulbs. none of them are even close to the power of a H1 Halogen bulb yet so if you actually want to use them as fog lights rather than decoration, then stick with halogens. I personally use 100w H1 Rainbow yellow bulbs, with laminex yellow tint over the lenses of the units just to be a bit different in an oldschool euro/dtm style Also, the yellow doesn't reflect back as badly as the white in actual fog so it helps with visibility a bit.
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As a point of note if its a colour match you want, Laminex make a tint that filters the Halogens and makes them HID white. Lamin-X.co.uk Shop • Buy Optic Blue tinted Headlight,fog lamp protection film
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Weird, I ordered two of those same festoons to go in the SW boot only this morning.
LED tech seems to be moving at a fair old pace now.
I've done sides and puddles with the 24SMD, glove box has a 5SMD but will replace with another 24SMD.
I'd dearly love to do the roof mounted interiors, I would buy Bojo tools (I assume the 10 piece kit is best..?), but please reassure me (a bit of a klutz) that it's a reasonably easy job with a bit of time and patience.....;-)
Any thoughts on fogs? There are things like this now
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-H1-50W-...#ht_2685wt_967
but I worry about dimensions both of hole in back of reflector and the space inside the reflector.

Thnaks again Jay and Coxy for your brilliant (ha, geddit?) guide to LED's, they do make a vast difference.
Can't take any credit for this, its all Jaba

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Hi AiducoQV, just noticed your posts on Jaba's LED forum and I'm a Brera owner that is on the way to a full external LED upgrade.

I use these 13 SMD 501 units in my front side lights and they look pretty good: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2pcs-Super...item5aef8db4e8

Good luck, you need lots of luck and lots of patience!
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Jaba, anyone - have you had problems installing LED brake/tail lights? I've checked your blog several times and you infer it's pretty straightforward but I've tried a couple of different type of LED units now and when I connect them I get brake-only light intensity (no difference when brake pedal used). Unless it's some weird feature of CANBUS, as I've not had chance to install resistors, I was just trying the LEDs out to check the side/brake light intensity change?
LED tail-only lights installed and working a treat, oh and no extra resistors required for those, just CANBUS LED units. :-)
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Hi AiducoQV, just noticed your posts on Jaba's LED forum and I'm a Brera owner that is on the way to a full external LED upgrade.

I use these 13 SMD 501 units in my front side lights and they look pretty good: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2pcs-Super...item5aef8db4e8

Good luck, you need lots of luck and lots of patience!

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Sorry for the thread hijack but how do you find the 13 SMD's Darrel? I currently use 8's in my 159 and find them a bit blue and a bit dim next to my HID's. I really want bright white light to match. For the price I'm wondering if these are worth a punt?
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No worries - it's Jaba's thread, and he's a very nice man! ;-)

As you say they are still a bit blue and dim next to HIDs but still look a zillion times better than the old 501 bulbs.

I have been musing on getting something more powerful but I assume we're restricted by the tiny hole the bulb has to pass through (I've spent several hideous hours trying to fish dropped bulbs out via the indicator bulb hole!).

A guy I know bought 1W LED sidelight bulbs for his Audi TT and they are awesomely bright! Not had chance to investigate to see if there's any compatible version for the Alfa yet though...
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Sorry for the thread hijack but how do you find the 13 SMD's Darrel? I currently use 8's in my 159 and find them a bit blue and a bit dim next to my HID's. I really want bright white light to match. For the price I'm wondering if these are worth a punt?
Don't mind me, its a forum, that's what its for, as long as we keep the thread on the subject of LEDs then get involved

As a point of note guys, the 13 LED units you are trying have been tested and tried by many of us already (see pages 3-6 of this thread). They are between 7000K & 8000K in colour so much bluer than the 8 LED sides that are more 6000K and still the "whitest" we have found of all the T10/W5W type LEDs available. The 24 LED versions of the 8 LED ones (page 6ish) are brighter and still white, if not a crisper / colder white than the 8's.

Personally, I have largely given up on sides and when my Halo's go in will probably just disconnect them as they will no longer serve any real purpose!

Keep searching though. I am using the T10 CREE type LEDs at the minute and while they are very bright, the forward facing only design doesnt make them great. Just remember that the holes for the sidelights are exactly 10mm so if the width of your new bulbs are more than that (the newer brighter ones all are) they wont fit!
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Hi guys,
you are all great! Thanks for help I've recieved my 13 SMD LEDs just yesterday evening. They are already installed now with no error on dashboard and beautifull light!
My next step is gonna be that interior LED conversion as per Jaba's blog

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i reckon i may try the 24's next... and low and behold the dash warning came up for one of my side's this morning whilst driving through the monsoon weather so no better time to change
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i reckon i may try the 24's next... and low and behold the dash warning came up for one of my side's this morning whilst driving through the monsoon weather so no better time to change
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My 24s flash a canbus sometimes before I start the engine, it soon disappears when I start the engine.
If I wasn't so lazy I'd solder the resistors as Jay documented in this thread!

I also need to write a guide on how I've upgraded to LEDs in my high-level brake light with these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-286-L...-/360539935042

It's not a cylon but looks good none-the-less. They don't quite fit through the holes in the light, you need to drill it out a bit.

These also work great as side repeaters, no canbus errors:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300979165334

I've also got these 80w H7s on order to try in my main beam:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231078151949
I'll let you know how I get on

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I've also got these 80w H7s on order to try in my main beam:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231078151949
I'll let you know how I get on
They are only rated at 800lm so are half the power of a normal Halogen bulb. If you just want main beam for flashing, they should be fine. There is a new type of H7 LED that is potentially good enough for main beam and maybe even driving lights but I havnt tried them out yet.

Coxy has a set to trial in the Halo's but I dont know what his feedback on them is yet.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7-50W-CRE...item3f25e50eb1

These use separate LED drivers and the single cell type high power COB LEDs so should be good to hit the 1800lm rating they claim which would put them on par with a Halogen bulb.

My main concern with them is the level of heat these type of LEDs create, they are hotter than HIDs !!
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Jay I've seen these and like you was unsure about the heat! There is very little room by the main beams for more ballasts and those fans. I don't like the idea of the fans, how do you fit them?

I appreciate the note about the lumens, I only use my main beam for flashing and I really can't stand the yellowness anymore. I'll fit them and see how I get on and of course take some pics for you all to cast judgement!
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