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I've decided to revisit the indicators, as these seem to be an ongoing problem to replace, and as they're cheap I've decided to give these a shot http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/21-LED-AMB...#ht_500wt_1180

I have concerns over the colour, and of course also the resistance to get the flash working correctly. But let's see how they do.
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Thanks, I gave it another go with some more vigor and fits beautifully now. Will upload photos soon...
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I've decided to revisit the indicators, as these seem to be an ongoing problem to replace, and as they're cheap I've decided to give these a shot http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/21-LED-AMB...#ht_500wt_1180

I have concerns over the colour, and of course also the resistance to get the flash working correctly. But let's see how they do.
id be interested to see how bright they are as it states for off road use only
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id be interested to see how bright they are as it states for off road use only
That's a standard disclaimer though I think. You're right though - but a limited gamble at under 6.
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That's a standard disclaimer though I think. You're right though - but a limited gamble at under 6.
yeah for 6 its worth a punt keep us posted with on how you get on
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Well, they turned up today. I haven't had a chance to fit them, as there appears to be an escalating hurricane in East Anglia tonight.

First impressions: they feel exactly as cheap as they cost. I'm not sure what I expected from a pair of bulbs costing less than 6 a pair including postage and the reseller mark up, however this is probably it. Having said that, if they work I will not be complaining!

They're very plasticky, and I was rather astonished to see their solution to resistors to prevent rapid repeating. There's clearly a lot of shielding there...!

This should be interesting - at this point let's just say my expectations are fairly low! I'll fit over the weekend, on one side at least, and get some comparison shots taken.
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Definitely interested in the results!
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Yes I would be interested too, but I suspect they will not be bright enough.

Take a look a these amber bulbs, not cheap but are very bright and well made.

Products - elef

This is the sort of output you can expect

Jack O Lantern with elef-I 3W Power LED automobile bulb - YouTube

Elef-I LED(with diffuser cap) vs Eagle eye tower - YouTube


An interesting French LED home brew project


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Those elef LEDs look perfect for the job... pricey, but just the ticket. I am tempted to get some in, but for now am focussing on other LED based activities before coming back to replacing the primary lights!
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yeah I thought the same, expensive indeed but hopefully it's a one off cost! They really look like the real answer, no gimmicks!
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And a decent looking replacement for the brakes lights looking at the first vid
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I dropped the company a note asking if they would offer a group/bulk discount etc.

whos in for a full set?

2 x amber diffused (front indicators)
2 x amber (rear indicators)
5 x red (stop/tail + fog)
1 x clear (reverse) - not sure if they do one for this, need to check

at listed prices that would be around 240 USD + Shipping

Will see what deals can be had, but "in principle" whos in?
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Put me down for a set jay, but ultimately it will come down to cost.
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I'm in, but they'd need to half that for me to buy.
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I'm in but price is key

Jay, you need to ask if they are CAN bus friendly, but I suspect they will be due to the high power rating.

Interestingly they now do a 5W Brake bulb.

For those people who are keen to build there own LED bulb this company sells "Empty Bayonet Bulb Bases"

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They also sell these patented 12 Watt Eagle EYE SMT Tower bulbs

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Once I get a communication channel open with them its going to cover things like can-bus / power drain etc, but most importantly, like all others have said, cost is key. Reality is, 240 USD + Shipping * 0.64 + Import duty is still gonna be circa 200 per car, which is a stack of cash to replace something that works just fine as it is. Factor in potential additional resistors and the fact that each of these LED's will require adaptive wiring to attach and although these are by far the best LEDs we have seen and will never need replacing, they may be a step too far.

Lets see what the manufacturer says and take it from there.


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I spoke to Elef a while back about group buys but they weren't interested. I did manage to get them to reduce their shipping costs from $140 to $10 or so, though.

Here's the thread; http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...ear-bulbs.html
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I'm in too, but as said above, the price needs to drop!
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Thanks for the extra info Bobda!

I have gone through the threads and the info dates back to 2008 in relation to the PnP LEDs that David made. They are good, but I think these elef ones are better or at least as good as in terms of build. The references he makes to the standard replacements available echo our own findings here in so much that they are pretty useless and made of cheap SMDs that fail easily.

I am hoping that Elef are more amenable to a group buy or at least bringing the cost down a bit given its been a year or so since you spoke to them and their is a global "cough" economic issue or two and all that

We shall see, as the cost even at 32 USD is high.

Does anyone know where the indicator flasher unit is in the 159? autolumination.com had some replacement LED flashers which would be useful in this conversion, and if I can find out what it is, we can figure out which one would need to replace it.
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I'm in the process of upgrading the lighting on my '01 166 (the standard halogen front nightlights in jam jars just don't cut it!). Beyond a HID upgrade I'm considering LED's and have come across two items that may be of interest ...

1) An all in one rear license plate unit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-license-...-/280797947728

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2) these bright Q5 LED with ring of 5050 LED's, currently availabe in a range of colours, but not yet canbus friendly

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-1156-BA15...item27bed8efb3

I've mailed one of the manufacturers and they say they'll have canbus versions available later in 2012. The Cree Q5 is a very bright LED, coupled with the projector lens, while the surrounding 5050's should fill the reflector housing behind it. I'm planning on using canbus versions for my reverse(white) and rear fog (red) when they become available.

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[QUOTE=Variator;4552567]
1) An all in one rear license plate unit

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-license-...-/280797947728/QUOTE]

Hi mate, just a note on the all in one units. A mate put a set in his Audi and they failed pretty much instantly so watch out for the quality issue with them. Also, they were/are very bright for the numberplate. You may want to try some of the w5w recomendations from the first post of this thread for your 166 as they should fit just fine.

Interested in how you get on with the other LED you listed though.

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I may go with LED replacment bulbs for the license plate all right.

In the mean time, I've found a video that seems to show the Cree Q5+12 5050 in action as an indicator. From what I've seen there are options of clear or 'frosted' lenses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU1Mpjkz4kU

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Hi
So has anyone tried changing the main H7's yet?
Found these on ebay "here", or "here"
Any thoughts?
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So has anyone tried changing the main H7's yet?
Found these on ebay "here", or "here"
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I doubt you would even see where you were going with those
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Halogen H7's produce around 1500 lumens of light. The best LED H7's I have seen on ebay produce 280 Lumens. We are a long way from LED lighting on main beam unless you just want it for the ability to flash, rather than see where you are going.
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