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yeah, it is nice, but like you say rare - must be only 1 in every 40 or something!
.... which is strange, as IMHO black + tan leather is a great combination
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Natural leather is a no-cost option on the Ti - its just most people seem to go for black.
yeah, it is nice, but like you say rare - must be only 1 in every 40 or something!
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No probs James, good luck with the new back box and skirts.

Going away for a week now, so will catch up next week.
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perksy, how did you get on with the remap etc?
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perksy, how did you get on with the remap etc?
Because I've also asked them to do the exhaust (along with an oil change and investigate the stiff gearshift) I won't be getting the car back until tomorrow afternoon.

There certainly seems to be a lot of interest in this and I just hope it all comes together ok both for the garage involved and myself. It really does seem a bargain at 300 + VAT for the DPF removal along with a remap and EGR delete.

The maps they use are from Angel Tuning. I have done a search for Angel Tuning on here and it came back with nothing but praise so I'm quietly confident it wil be ok and not TOOOOO aggressive.

I'm just hoping the clutch is going to be upto the extra load. I've already started pricing up replacements just in case. Doesn't look too bad at 131 plus fitting.

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Because I've also asked them to do the exhaust (along with an oil change and investigate the stiff gearshift) I won't be getting the car back until tomorrow afternoon.

There certainly seems to be a lot of interest in this and I just hope it all comes together ok both for the garage involved and myself. It really does seem a bargain at 300 + VAT for the DPF removal along with a remap and EGR delete.

The maps they use are from Angel Tuning. I have done a search for Angel Tuning on here and it came back with nothing but praise so I'm quietly confident it wil be ok and not TOOOOO aggressive.

I'm just hoping the clutch is going to be upto the extra load. I've already started pricing up replacements just in case. Doesn't look too bad at 131 plus fitting.

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Good man, I've been in contact with Steve who seems very helpful. I agree the price seems to good to be true; hopefully it isn't!!

My clutch, DMF & gearbox are only 5000 miles old so hoping they will be able to cope with what the 159 should've come out of the factory with (cheers warranty!). Mine will be booked in once its had its next dealer visit to (fingers crossed ) remedy a misfire.

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Ok, my DPF has now been removed, my EGR has been disabled and the engine remapped.

I also got a Longlife custom twin stainless exhaust made up at the same time.

I've now had the car back a day, done about 150 miles so far and I am VERY VERY impressed! Steve at Motormech really knows his stuff and we chatted for a good while when I picked the car up. He said the car now drove very well.

He wasn't kidding. The car drives completely differently. There are no flat spots at low rpm - there power is always there. From as low as 1300 rpm there is a very reassuring surge everytime you press the throttle. Once the car gets to about 1500rpm you're really getting huge torque and the car just flies. Its just so easy to drive and so few gearchanges are needed.

I would compare it with driving a much larger engined car - it just effortlessly pulls everytime you put your foot down. I've also been getting much better fuel economy (even though I've been giving it a good "test"). I got an indicated 40.5mpg before the work and its now showing 43! Not bad.

Of course I also get a little more noise than before as I had the exhaust done as well. Hardly any difference from standard to be honest but I get a nice deep burble sound when it gets on boost.

I asked to keep the old DPF unit. The thing is HUGE. They had to butcher the unit a little with an angle grinder to remove a sensor that apparently acts like an air flow meter. Not sure quite what it is but you can certainly see that somehting has been chopped out.

One thing I didn't realise is that the DPF unit is in fact a DPF and catalyst combined. There is a gap of about 3" between the two, but they are together in the same casing. Luckily, diesels are only tested for the opacity of the smoke produced (not HC or CO etc) so it will still pass an MOT fine without a catalyst and it gives you a very free flowing exhaust.

I'll take some pics of the removed DPF in a few minutes and post them up.

I'm massively impressed with everything about the conversion. I've spent much of my driving time today with a massive silly smile on my face every time the boost kicks in! It is just SUCH a difference to standard.

For 360 (300+vat) I think its a bit of a bargain. Of course I also had the custom exhaust done and a small service at the same time. My total bill was just over 700.

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A couple of pics of the removed DPF/cat. The small section is the cat, the larger one is the dpf.

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Nice one I knew you'd be impressed as it totally transforms the way the car drives.

And you got a great deal too.

The biggest benefit I found was the lack of need to drop a gear to overtake. The endless torque mens you can boot it in higher gears
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Jesus perks I've seen smaller unexploded WW2 bombs - no wonder the economy on our 159's can be so poor

I think most drivers would recoup that outlay in a year on mpg savings
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Good god! How much extra gubbins & weight had to be added to these cars to keep the EU carbon gimps happy FFS?!

Perksy, I think I'll get mine done in the next 2 weeks based on your experience. Any pics of the backend?
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looks like he did a number with that angle grinder, lucky you won't be using that dpf anymore, thing belongs in the trash anyway!
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looks like he did a number with that angle grinder, lucky you won't be using that dpf anymore, thing belongs in the trash anyway!
Yes, it'll be heading for the bin shortly. I think the thin stainless pipes that connect to the DPF/cat unit (you can see them on the pics) are the sensor pipes for sensing how clogged the DFP is. They were connected via rubber tubes to a sensor on the bulkhead. I suppose as the DPF gets clogged there is more and more of a pressure difference between the front and back of the filter and it eventually triggers a regen.

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Was it Steve at Motortech that confirmed it was an Angel Tuning remap they supply?

Just curious as the figured supplied on both web sites don't match up for my 2.4 200bhp...

+40bhp +60lbft Angel Tuning
+45bhp +65lbft Motor-Mech

I had an Angel Tuning remap on my 156 1.9 and was very impressed so would happily use their remap again.
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Yep definitely Steve at MotorMech and it was backed up by Paul (the owner).

I wonder if the difference is the additional benefit of removing the DPF - or were both figures for DPF-Remap combos?

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Angel Tuning don't offer a DPF removal, odd as they would have to modify the ECU to allow for the MotorTech one.

I guess the free flowing exhaust would now give you a few more bhp, as well as the improved mpg.
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did they put your car on a rolling road and get a final power output figures for you? would be interested to see the torque curve graph if you have it?
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did they put your car on a rolling road and get a final power output figures for you? would be interested to see the torque curve graph if you have it?
No graphs - Motormech don't have a rolling road.

By the way - Paul (the owner of Motormech) also owns Roar Power (next door). Roar Power is looked after by Steve and Paul looks after motormech. Even though they are separate companies they both run together. Motormech is for servicing/maintenance and Roar Power does the exhausts/tuning etc.

Roar Power also have their own website with some more detail about their work/maps etc.

Motormech website - Fiat and Alfa Romeo Specialist Birmingham: Italian Car Specialist

Roar Power website - Stainless Steel Exhausts, Birmingham Exhausts

I'm not affiliated to any of these by the way, but I've been using Motormech regularly with all my Italian cars (3 Fiat Coupes, Alfa 156, Alfa GTV, Punto HGT now the 159) for years and years and always had great service.

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A couple of pics of the removed DPF/cat. The small section is the cat, the larger one is the dpf.
Woah! Looking at the pics, most of the fuel cons improvement is probably derived through weight save than any form of re-map!
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I will keep an eye out for you on the Aston Express way in the week! Blowing the cobwebs away I should imagine......

Sounds like a good job and a heck of a lot of work for not that much money. Look forward to seeing the photos of the exhaust at the rear.
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A few pics of the rear end. Excuse the state of the unwashed paintwork.

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EDIT; pics removed while I edit the number plate out

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Have been following this with interest as you have done many of the things I would have liked to have done with mine... I have the dpf delete etc courtesy of Gus and had thought about the twin exhaust but have to say was put off firstly because I was skint but then later on discovered the issue re the heat shielding.

Have they added any extra shielding to the car where the new section of exhaust goes? As I understand it the pipe or back box runs next to fuel tank and on cars with twin pipes as standard has extra shielding..... Would be nice to know if this was discussed.

Car looks great by the way!

Past 1999 - Grigio Chiaro, 156 2.0 T-Spark SP1 - 2007 - Strombolli 159 1.9JTDM LUSSO SW + Alfatune DPF Removal/Map --- Present 2005 - Strombolli GT 3.2 V6
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Yes, I discussed heat shielding before the new exhaust was done. They said they could easily fabricate and fit some shielding if it was near anything that could be affected.

As it turns out none has been fitted but the exhaust doesn't run close to anything plastic (esp fuel tank and filler). Also, the two rear boxes are absolutely tiny and don't take up even a fraction of the space available.

I'll mention it next time the car is in though.

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so how much is it for a dpf removel including the pipe etc and vat only im a little confused.com :-)
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Dpf removal, remap and egr disable is 300 plus vat at Motormech.

I need to speak to them about the egr disable though because fiatecuscan says it's still opening and closing.

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