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Clutch clunk!

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Since buying my 159 several months ago i have notcied that at slower speeds changing gear there is a clunk noise at the end of the clutch travel as if there is some slack in the driveline, seems to disappear at higher speeds, try to drive round it by blending the clutch in slower at the top end.

I also get a low speed knock form the front suspension area over uneven surfaces, not pot holes etc. but general road surface, man hole covers etc Could this be connected to the above, may be a drive shaft perhaps?

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Hi John - I have the same car as you and noted a similar noise especially going from 2nd to 3rd? Was in at the local main dealer but they could not find anything wrong and reported it to be a 'characteristic' of the car? Mines not all the time and not very noticable but I wanted it checked.....Keeping my eye on it....
I got them to check driveshafts etc but all clear?
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Mine is the same
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Hi Johns159 - Ive had 3 clutches replaced on my Brera. Had similar problem than you. Ps. I'm not a techie, but I'll try & explain my experience as best as I can. Get your car on a lift, check your driveshaft-there is a bracket close to the bearing holding the driveshaft in place (right in the middle/centre of vehicle). Mine was tightened and the problem was resolved.
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Hi Phoenix,

Is this an undertray off and dealer job or can i get to it myself do you think?

It definatly sounds like this, I described it to the dealer as if it sounds like a metal plate that was loose but just had it back today after a new shock absorber and air con drain leak problem being fixed, rather do it myself i think, i mentioned it to them but they could not find anything wrong when they had it.....
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John as mentioned its exactly the same with my car - main dealer found nothing - I have found that if you are extremely smooth with your clutch release on changing the noise is eliminated.........
I wanted mine checked for assurance as off to Devon in it next weekend. If something does go then I will be extremely angry!....but they assured me that they tried two other 1.9 JTDm's that were in stock and they were the same............we'll see
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not the same problem but it's clutch related and it seems funny to me (even if it should really worry me cause most certainly is from the hydraulics): when the engine/car is cold it creaks when pressing and releasing it about the middle of the travel and it does that only with the engine on when I turn off the engine it's smooth as it's supposed to be
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Hi John. No its not the tray. Its a funny looking bracket that keeps your drive shaft (ds) in place. Get your car on a lift. Wiggle your ds to see if it moves easily from side 2 side. If yes, thats most prob the cause since it rattles against your car's body especially during gear change. It will take you 2 min to tighten the bracket that holds it in place. Hope it helps. Sorted my prob out that way.
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Reviving this - anyone else got this clunk? I still have but the dealer says its a 'feature of the car' ?!
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q4 2.4 - yes clunk but diagnosed to propshaft to centre diff - obviously not a problem with the 1.9 fwd

normal apparently - gggrrr ....er yep on a 120k mile clunk not 13k miles - i'll be pressing somewhat to get it resolved....
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Reviving this - anyone else got this clunk? I still have but the dealer says its a 'feature of the car' ?!
My ti is in at Simonstone in Bristol for the annual service today, I asked them to look at this issue (I have the most noticable 'clunk' going from 2nd to 3rd) and after the test drive they've rung me back to say they want to take the gearbox out to try and identify the problem. Slightly nervous about that, but will let them do their job.

I mentioned the driveshaft bracket thing and they are going to check that first but technician thinks it is internal gearbox issue...

Will keep you up to date with what happens, not especially pleased to be stuck with the box of a courtesy car they've given me - an '08 Fiat Panda 1.2.
Last time she was in I had a Brera so I was somewhat disappointed to get lumbered with the Panda
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An update from the service department after stripping the gearbox

Apparently an internal mechanical failure with (some of/one of?) the synchronisers.

I asked them about the possible cause and they said it's just a mechanical failure, nothing to do with the use of the clutch or driving style. It seems from posts on here that similar problems exist for a lot of 159 drivers, but I find it hard to believe that we are all suffering such failures unless there is a fundamental design flaw?! Perhaps my case goes beyond the usual complaints of slight clunking? Although that is how I would describe it - a slight clunk, most obvious between 2nd and 3rd gear...

Anyway, parts are on order, some of which are coming from Italy, delivery estimate is Saturday,they come via the chunnel which is obviously having problems after the fire blah blah blah... So I'm probably looking at having her back tail end of next week

Have asked them to look at getting me a better courtesy car in the mean time, but don't hold out much hope!!
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RS, Did you get the clunk noise when slipping the clutch in or out? It Is always worse 2nd to third on mine and clunked when you were letting the clutch out, some days its worse than others....

Did they say they had seen it before?
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Johns

Yes I did get the noise when slipping the clutch in or out, they say there is nothing wrong with the clutch.

They didn't mention seeing it before
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I get this noise too, that's why I googled it and ended up here. Shurely shome mishtake if they are saying it's "a 159 thing".
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Every one resolved this clunk? What was wrong?
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I got this 2nd to 3rd gear off clutch noise also.
Wouldnt bother me if i knew it was nothing but it seems from these posts that some mechanics are classifying it as a fault.
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I seem to get the same symptoms if I'm driving gently. Once I press on, it seems to disappear.
I've never had it checked out, just assumed it was indeed a "characteristic" of the 159.
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my 147ts clunks at low road speed when i release the clutch when going up/down the gear box like there's backlash somwhere in the drive chain.. also if i stay say, in 2nd and ease on/off the throttle, however when i pin it its quiet!? gotta be drive shafts, uj's or clamps....will investigate this weekend,
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Hi Johns159 - Ive had 3 clutches replaced on my Brera. Had similar problem than you. Ps. I'm not a techie, but I'll try & explain my experience as best as I can. Get your car on a lift, check your driveshaft-there is a bracket close to the bearing holding the driveshaft in place (right in the middle/centre of vehicle). Mine was tightened and the problem was resolved.
Has anybody got a pic of this bracket as mine is clunking when changing gears thanks
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marcevo1, wrote;q4 2.4 - yes clunk but diagnosed to propshaft to centre diff - obviously not a problem with the 1.9 fwd

normal apparently - gggrrr ....er yep on a 120k mile clunk not 13k miles - i'll be pressing somewhat to get it resolved....


I have a 2.4 Q4, which clunks all the time on gear "upwards changes" eg 3rd to 4th. The previous owner who owned it from new said that it had always done that. So did you ever get the clunking issue resolved with your 2.4 Q4?
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Bringing this back from the dead. Mine does this too was worried it was a DMF. Anyone made any progress on this? How many other peoples do this?
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Another owner here with this clunk noise when coming off the clutch. (1.9jtdm).
It is more noticeable when gearbox oil has warmed up. (if it is a gearbox problem??).
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Definitely agree with it being more noticeable when warm. Notice it a lot just before arriving to work but not when setting off.
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