Ling, I am sure you are a n1ce person, but you dont half dont talk
Its a little bar room banter, but most people on here know the origin of each model and engine line up.
What is it then? a Vauxhall or a Tipo?
Hopeless compared to Citroen.......
I can only say what feedback I get. Some Alfas are fine, others have loads of problems. They have more problems than other makes (generally) in my experience.
I think the engines are all the same as GM now. Am I wrong??
I think most Alfas based on Tipo chassis, am I wrong?
That platform has served Fiat group well.
I meant the Fiat group (to deal with) are hopeless compared to (for example) Citroen. Only yesterday a large and very reliable supplier emailed to say these exact words:
but f*%king Fiat are lying, thieving w&nk%rs and have stitched us up very bad. Remove the Fiat deal completely please as it will no longer be happening.
This is a typical response from dealing with them. This is the organisation in the UK and is a symptom of the Italian ownership (imho). Cars are often delayed, too as my customer above found out. It costs me a lot of goodwill and hire cars. I cannot always afford to provide a hire car and subsidise the customers who suffer. Fiat UK are (almost) entirely reliant on volumes of Grand Puntos and much less Panda and the new Bravo. It is a one and two halves trick Pony. This is the fallback for Alfa. Alfa desperately need a lead-in car people will buy like A3 or 1-series to get new people into the brand. But it must be quality, not a rebadged Fiat thing. And then there is the dealer problem. They are simply not profitable in the way BMW and Audi dealers are, so cannot invest (to generalise). There are massive open points of the UK with no representation, for the inevitable repairs. Fine if you live close to a good dealer, but there aren't many.
Alfas were rated second-to-last in last year’s J.D. Power’s survey for the UK. The cars come into Portbury run by Walon. Walon have a massive facility and have a production line for re-conditioning the new cars before they go to dealers. I am told by people who visit, you will see how busy the paint and body shops are. Apparently many cars are crushed due to excessive damage if there is a storm in the Bay of Biscay, others repaired. (By law, if not repairable unreg cars must be 100% crushed, not dismantled).
It is a very difficult situation and a shame you do not like to hear the plain truth. What do you want me to say, that dealing with Alfa is as smooth as dealing with Audi or BMW???
I moved over £28 million of cars last year. I am afraid I know what I am talking about here. Sorry.
Oggy GTA, it is MRS
I am Ling.