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TUT Ugly wheel weights... (Prodrive/Brera rims)

So, after much waiting finally got some prodrive rims, and had some PZero's fitted today - but somewhat distraught to get home and realise one wheel as some ******* ugly wheel weights right on view.

Wheels were straight out of the box, and I said to the guy quite politely before we started but made clear NOT to stick a load of weight where you can see it, and mentioned that anything that's really wobbly needs the tyre demounting and shifting around as needed.

Now I am thinking this is a bit and I should go back and make him balance the wheel again, and shift the tyre if needed?

Its not like they are £50 remolds... but appreciate some tyres are not well balanced and need a couple weights.

What sort of weights other people seeing on their 19" rims?
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(the shiny weights may make it worse I suppose, but not happy - didn't even stick them on straight!)

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It does look a bit naff, it must be possible to have them hidden away on the inside.
Just be careful that the weights don't clash with anything when you get them redone - I had some on the back of a GTV alloy. I was getting a 'clunk' every time I went over a bump in the road, spent hundreds replacing various suspension parts only to find it was one bloody weight badly positioned that was catching!

Where did you manage to get the wheels from?
I gather they're near impossible to get hold of now - even Veloces don't sell sets anymore.
Not that I went any, just curious.

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That looks about 45g on the outside which is quite a lot but there's only so much you can do. If you paid extra to have them rotated constantly to find a low weight for the outer i would understand, otherwise you would be wasting the fitters time imo.
The tyre would only be shifted if you are seeing 60+ grams, although some fitters will just stack them up

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For one thing get the correct valve stems fitted, which for Prodrive rims are stainless, not run of the mill rubber ones, because as they are they look as mess, and I 100% agree with SLM3CFC.

Saying that because of the design of the Prodrive rims you will always see the weights on the outside.

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45 gramms of balancing wheight for 25, kilos wheel is OK my view. Nothing to worry.
Too picky.
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Nope - that doesn't look good at all - I'll take them off you for a £100....
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Where did you manage to get the wheels from?
I gather they're near impossible to get hold of now - even Veloces don't sell sets anymore.
Not that I went any, just curious.
So wheels are from Veloces, they have them on the website and eBay, I know Alfa sold through, I think Veloces may have had Team Dynamics (who make the wheels in the UK) do another run for them, as they had plenty when I was there the other week.

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That looks about 45g on the outside which is quite a lot but there's only so much you can do. If you paid extra to have them rotated constantly to find a low weight for the outer i would understand, otherwise you would be wasting the fitters time imo.
The tyre would only be shifted if you are seeing 60+ grams, although some fitters will just stack them up

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Yeah I was quite clear from the start that they were brand new boxed and I wanted it done best possible, even if he charged me a bit extra for the time.

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For one thing get the correct valve stems fitted, which for Prodrive rims are stainless, not run of the mill rubber ones, because as they are they look as mess, and I 100% agree with SLM3CFC.

Saying that because of the design of the Prodrive rims you will always see the weights on the outside.
All wheels needs some weights, they should be on that inside edge (hopefully clearing brembo's!) but on these, some of them where not even stuck on straight! which really messed with my slightly OCD love of everything as it should be

Valves are tyre place standard, not sure I would want stainless they would really stand out against the darker rim, I am ok with the standard ones, at risk of causing a riot, they are going on my guilietta, so its not originality we are going for here! I also ordered up some Guilia QV black/silver centre caps not the usual colour Alfa logo

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45 gramms of balancing wheight for 25, kilos wheel is OK my view. Nothing to worry.
Too picky.
25 Kilos wheel I bloody hope a 235/40 R19 PZero doesn't weigh 13.7Kg!

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Nope - that doesn't look good at all - I'll take them off you for a £100....
Thanks for offer, i'll pass ;-)

I decided I could not live with it, I mean look at this one (you can see where he started to stick half a ton on the rim then didn't after I questioned it):
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Its not even in a straight line!

With hat in had and sheepish look as I asked them for a quote two days ago... I went to another local place I trust this morning (>£100 more/set, which is why I went elsewhere) and had them all re-balanced with BLACK weights and now they look perfect

No picture to share yet, same amount of weights pretty much but hardly notice them now.

They commented the rim that needed the most weights had a slight deformation like it was dropped which was frustrating, he said you could only notice is spinning on the balancer, but given I picked them up personally from Veloces (not shipped), all boxes sealed/perfect, I could not see if before and you can't visually see it so I will live with it as must be factory issue - put that one on the back.

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25 Kilos wheel I bloody hope a 235/40 R19 PZero doesn't weigh 13.7Kg!
This size is 26-29LBS depends on manufacturer. Pirelli is normally not lightest.
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So wheels are from Veloces, they have them on the website and eBay, I know Alfa sold through, I think Veloces may have had Team Dynamics (who make the wheels in the UK) do another run for them, as they had plenty when I was there the other week.

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They're not for me, I don't think they look as good as the sexy 19'' 10-spokes on a Spider.
They do suit the Brera very well though.
Not sure about on a Giulietta either - isn't it going to look like a Brera wannabe but nowhere near as good looking?
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So wheels are from Veloces, they have them on the website and eBay, I know Alfa sold through, I think Veloces may have had Team Dynamics (who make the wheels in the UK) do another run for them, as they had plenty when I was there the other week.

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The Prodrive rims are not aftermarket rims, they are original equipment on Prodrive Brera's, and made by Rimstock as such.

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I'm sure I read on here somewhere that the Veloces ones were a cheaper (aftermarket) imitation?
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You will need screw in metal valves, the rubber tyre shop ones will leak, ask me how I know.
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If the tyres had been fitted properly (dot opposite valve) you shouldn't need any weights. Always do mine that way and have never needed any weight below national speed limits - cough!!
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Non weight mount is just a theory.
PZERO could be new, but not be fresh. So it could be also stored wrong way and dried unevenly.
You can hardly gain zero weight mount this case.
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The Prodrive rims are not aftermarket rims, they are original equipment on Prodrive Brera's, and made by Rimstock as such.

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Yes made by rimstock, who suggested they were aftermarket (I didn't), these are genuine they have Alfa PN stamped in the rear of the rim
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They're not for me, I don't think they look as good as the sexy 19'' 10-spokes on a Spider.
They do suit the Brera very well though.
Not sure about on a Giulietta either - isn't it going to look like a Brera wannabe but nowhere near as good looking?
Isn't the Brera just looking like a 8c wannabe?

I quite like both on the spider, when we had the 159 I found the 10 spoke 19"'s were very heavy though, these are supposed to be lighter (11.3Kg the one I weighed, completely forgot to weigh wheel with tyre on.. this is going to annoy me now I don't know the weight...)

Obviously I like them on the Giulietta, won't say more as wrong forum but posted here for experience of those with the wheels which I really appreciate
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If the tyres had been fitted properly (dot opposite valve) you shouldn't need any weights. Always do mine that way and have never needed any weight below national speed limits - cough!!
I didn't notice the dot really until I was cleaning the wheels up, I noticed it was "around" the valve, if its wrong and should be opposite surprised the 2nd place I went to didn't say anything (they had no reason to hold back, I was already hat in hand I needed their help).

Anyway, if you want these rim's I recommend black weights, this is "worst" wheel:
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Can you see the weights?

Closer:
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Best your going to get I think. Massive improvement over the first effort.

I always thought the dot was lightest part of the tyre and went near the valve stem as it creates a slight additional weight?
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You will need screw in metal valves, the rubber tyre shop ones will leak, ask me how I know.
Thanks for tip! They are on the car now, will see if I have problems!

Cause I really want to take them off and have them balanced for a 3rd time obviously!
(will say something like if I do, as took me a while to clean the adhesive from the first bodged weights - Autoglym bug and tar remover by the way is the thing to use - then I gave them a polish up to try and keep the brake dust off best I can).
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I'm sure I read on here somewhere that the Veloces ones were a cheaper (aftermarket) imitation?
You have to be careful, they sell several horseshoe sizes in 17" & 18" that are made by WSP Italy and not an OEM wheel from Alfa, but if you look closely at their website and eBay listings it does say "Alfa style" or some other wording rather than Alfa wheel.

These are legit Prodrive/Alfa ones made in UK
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I didn't notice the dot really until I was cleaning the wheels up, I noticed it was "around" the valve, if its wrong and should be opposite surprised the 2nd place I went to didn't say anything (they had no reason to hold back, I was already hat in hand I needed their help).

Anyway, if you want these rim's I recommend black weights, this is "worst" wheel:
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Can you see the weights?

Closer:
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Best your going to get I think. Massive improvement over the first effort.

I always thought the dot was lightest part of the tyre and went near the valve stem as it creates a slight additional weight?
I'd be happy with that.
I never knew about the 'dot'. You live and learn...

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You have to be careful, they sell several horseshoe sizes in 17" & 18" that are made by WSP Italy and not an OEM wheel from Alfa, but if you look closely at their website and eBay listings it does say "Alfa style" or some other wording rather than Alfa wheel.

These are legit Prodrive/Alfa ones made in UK
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Yes, that was it - WSP. They're probably a heavier wheel than the legit Prodrives you've got.
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Wheel weights have never really worried me until this thread, and when checking my tyres this morning I noticed an "excess" of weights on one wheel - 150g just inside the spokes and an additional 15g on the inside of the wheel.
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