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Brera 2.2JTS wont start :(

Hi all, I have this non starting problem with my Brera and I'm a little lost on locating the cause.

When I put in the fob and press start, the engine wont turn over. It wont jump start with leads to my wifes car, but it does bump start. The battery warning indicator shows on the multifunction display when the engine is running, the voltage at the battery terminals is 12.2v when the engine isnt running. Electrically everything else seems to have charge enough to operate correctly.

Hopefully you good people may have come across a solution and may be able to advise please
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12.2 volts is pretty discharged so that may be your problem.

I can recall testing a starter motor by touching the starter motors positive terminal with the jump lead (other lead to earth). I don't know how sensible this would be with a Brera though!

Edit, how good are your jump leads? I've got a good set and a set that just doesn't work
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Thanks for replying Rewe, the jump leads are my dads, they seem meaty enough but im no expert on what makes a good set of leads. I did think about jumping the starter, but id probably need to remove the harnessing that is already attached for fear of frying something further up the loom.
When the leads were attached and the wifes car was running, the voltage pushed up to 13,8v.
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Get the battery tested 12.2 is low, as previously stated. Possibly a dead cell, so will need a new battery. Doesn't need much battery discharge for the car to refuse to turn over.
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Thanks for the reply alfahemi, my thoughts too that the battery seems past its best. I'll set to getting a good quality one regardless I think. I doubt it would last a British winter if its whimpering already in August lol.
I was just confused at getting nothing happen from a jump start. Never had that happen before but it has been many many years since I've had to jump a car. Cars were a lot simpler back then.
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There are a few Alfa specialists around Hertfordshire, if that's where you are. ProAlfa in Watford are good and there is Alfa Workshop in Royston if that might be nearer to you. It doesn't sound much of a problem if you can jump start it but no point in buying a battery just to rule a duff one out..
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Thanks dc, I'll look those companies up. Watford is closer to me.
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2 weeks ago, i went to start the car after being parked an hour at the gym.
all electrics were fine, car just wouldnt start.

called 2 people to jump start it, thinking it might be dodgy jumper cables. nothing.
called the rac, after 5 mins of him using a multimeter across the engine bay it turned out to be a faulty engine block ground wire.

its attached to the engine mount and inner wing, rac man said that water hits it and corrodes the copper. new cable and all was fine. only mention it as it could be a possibility
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Wow thanks samisnake2, my Brera still doesn't start. Changed the battery and no change, so your pointer is something new, and ill have a look when the sun comes up, thank you
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Wow thanks samisnake2, my Brera still doesn't start. Changed the battery and no change, so your pointer is something new, and ill have a look when the sun comes up, thank you
no worries. if it does turn out to be that, the way he did it looked 'easy'.

battery and tray out (quite a few nuts, one was pretty seized on but he still got it off), then its bolted onto the engine mount, and the other end onto the wing.
the nut on the wing side was seized, and in an awkward position, so he pulled the earth cable out of its fitting (the slightly exposed cable at the end had corroded and turned green so was very easy to do).
he then fitted a 15" earth cable, this time attaching it to the same chassis earth that the negative battery cable uses. its higher up, so not as exposed to the elements.
took him about 15mins.


my battery is only a couple months old, and a massive exide one, yet now and again id have trouble starting it, slightly sluggish starting etc. it just finally gave up the ghost that day.
after changing the earth cable, the engine starts first touch of the button, and im sure this is a placebo but the car seems more responsive.
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You sir are a legend! Engine block ground is exactly what it was. I wonder if I can get my breakdown service to fix mine.
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You sir are a legend! Engine block ground is exactly what it was. I wonder if I can get my breakdown service to fix mine.
glad it helped.

was looking at the rac emails i received, and found the part number for the earth cable. can get it from eurocarparts if you feel like doing it yourself
Autobar Starter/Solenoid Lead 15"

i paid 6.50 for it from the rac guy. almost feel cheated!
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Well I botched on the part you linked and drove over to Autolusso in Houghton Regis. There my brera was given a health check and a proper alfa ground strap was fitted. Seems my old one had snapped clean in two at the crimp.
The health check created a new chamber of horrors for me lol.
I was treated to an up close view of my rear trailing arms. The mechanic said, and I quote 'I have never seen them in that bad a condition before'.
They are rusted through leaving a number of large holes . Autolusso can fit new rustproofed ones which I will have to get done.
I also have a weeping radiator which could do with replacing.
The plus side is my front subframe is in excellent condition but was advised to have it swapped for one that has had the same rustproofing treatment. I will most likely get that done as I know it's a pricey bugger to buy new.
Some new bushes are needed, may as well get these done at the same time.
And the obligatory 4 wheel alignment.

So a big bill coming up but I was expecting to spend on this brera as I did save a lot on the purchase price compared to other cars for sale at the time.
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Money well spent. The suspension bushes alone are worth getting done to improve the handling..
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