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incorrect battery securing bar? [SOLVED]

new battery bought... new battery installed... hoped it would sort the ill fitting battery securing bar.

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is this the right bar?
do i have the bar the right way round (bar has an arrow stamped in it, that i thought would be 'forward')?

im out of ideas whats wrong with it. its 'secure enough' for now but id like to sort it properly.

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there should be some polystyrene type packers between the bar and battery
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Don't know what you have there.
First, the battery has to be 190 high. Then the strap has a metal bar on the engine side with the top and wing side in canvas webbing.
You put the battery in with the wing side webbing already attached. Then the remaining webbing goes over the top and stops at the metal bar. The metal bar is the height of the battery and has a metal tab at the base. When you have manipulated the whole thing over the battery the metal bar stands on its tab and the tab is tightened down to secure the battery.
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Mine looks like Item number 4.
A short metal tab (wing side) then the length of webbing over the top and the higher metal bar locking down on the engine side.
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my 159 3.2 SW had item 4 but my 2.4 spider has item 10 with a polytsyrene packer
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OE i have 10, 11, 12. I think ill space it up from underneath and protect the top with something

Nogrip... can you get a picture of the polystyrene blocks?
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This is the 2.4 Spider version with polystyrene blocks
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and this is the 159 3.2 SW version
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This is the 2.4 Spider version with polystyrene blocks
That's non-standard... although a bloody good fix... ive got some of that stuff kicking about. Also i notice your top bar is the opposite way round to mine(arrow facing towards the rear of the car). Thanks for the pic
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my arrow faces towards the bumper but i've no packer under the bar.
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Bigjim:- does yours fit square like nogrips picturs or diagonally like mine?
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it fits square, iirc the bar down the side hooks under the bottom of the battery tray, so maybe there is some play in it.
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Battery could be both 175, mm and 190, mm height.
190, mm strap would never secure 175, mm battery properly.
Have never seen top secure bar on 159'ers like this before.
My view pole battery side secure strap holder is integrated part of battery tray with no any bolt in possibility to have a discussed bar.
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it fits square, iirc the bar down the side hooks under the bottom of the battery tray, so maybe there is some play in it.
this is my thinking... maybe ive not shoved the 'hooky bar' far enough towards the rear of the car. will have battery out again *hopefully* tomorrow to secure it properly and refit the plastic tray i neglected to put back in when i put the blanking plates in the EGR.

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Have never seen top secure bar on 159'ers like this before.
As Old Engineers picture shows theres 2 types, the bar and the strap. mine is the bar, the option for the strap is greyed out when using my chassis number in ePER
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I presumed polystyrene packer was std as it had GM markings on it - must have been something they had knocking around the workshop at a service and battery change.m for a previous owner.
I'll own up to fitting the bar the wrong way round so that I can see the battery status bubble
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Just thinking about this. The later type is 'Bar and Strap' and can only fit a 190mm battery height. But perhaps the all metal 'Three Piece' is designed so that the top bar is reversible? Then the 'U' shape would sit open end UP for a 175mm battery and open end DOWN for a 190mm battery.

Might explain why so many battery selection charts offer a 175mm battery!
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the Varta E44 is 190mm high... i still have this gappy gap that nogrip solved with the polystyrene blocks with the bar 'the correct way up'... seems to me like id have a lot more than a 15mm difference in height if i turned it upside down
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[solved]

Found it, Fixed it!!

sorry for the external Google Links, was easier just to add them from my drive than upload to forum

so this is the 'floating bar' next to the fuse box, no room for adjustment, the fork will only fix in one place
Battery Tray Cut-out
Bar Installed

as it turns out the bar next to the rigid boost pipe had been installed (not by me) in the wrong place.
Incorrect Position
Correct Position

this is it all fitted back into the engine bay
Installed
With Battery Drip Tray

and how the bar sits with a 190mm height battery installed
One
Two
Three

no need for polystyrene blocks. i do however need to source my self a lower clamping block as this was where the bar was incorrectly installed. as of yet i cant see it listed on ePER will have to dig a little deeper later. knowing my luck it will come with the complete battery tray

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