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16-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Originally Posted by V6Alfisti
And that's a ride and handling improvement, lol? 
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16-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Rather a lot of press for such a small amount of change... and the Brera isn't even a sporty car!
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16-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
A bit surprised at the negativity towards this, given that:
a) we don't really know exactly what changes they've made
b) we've no idea what effect these changes have had
Personally I'd like to try it (or at least read a couple of road-tests written by people who have tried it) before writing it off as style over substance.
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16-05-2008
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#54 (Post Link)
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Originally Posted by slimbloke
Rather a lot of press for such a small amount of change... and the Brera isn't even a sporty car!
Well yeah, except for your Brera!! |
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16-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Originally Posted by jamieboy
A bit surprised at the negativity towards this, given that:
a) we don't really know exactly what changes they've made
b) we've no idea what effect these changes have had
Personally I'd like to try it (or at least read a couple of road-tests written by people who have tried it) before writing it off as style over substance.
Well said. |
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18-05-2008
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#56 (Post Link)
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Definitely would like to hear more about it, but I guess any negativity is actually caused by Alfas huge delay in releasing a potent 159 based car - and not really aimed at Prodrive who I think most people would regard very well .
I guess folks had got some hopes up on this one, but since the project was scaled back to not include engine mods and (apparently and inexplicably) with no mechanical diff then people are still feeling like they would like a genuinely fast 159.
This could still be a cracker of course, it depends on what they have done and maybe there could be real sportyness in the setup - but it does seem rather constrained in scope at this point..
I'm not a doctor - but I really do recommend braking later
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19-05-2008
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#57 (Post Link)
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Well, we do know about the removal of the AWD, some weight saving and the fact they didn't touch the engine.
All in all, expectations were perhaps a bit too high hence the negativity.
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19-05-2008
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#58 (Post Link)
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Well I'm hoping to pull a few strings and organise a quick test drive when it's out  Make up my own mind then  |
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19-05-2008
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#59 (Post Link)
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
We do expect a thorough review if you do test drive it |
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19-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
As always
I'll do another 'this week I have been mostly....' threads!  |
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20-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Good man! |
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20-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Apparently the dealers are all off to Prodrive tomorrow night for the launch presentation and then a they get a day to hoon around the test circuit on Thursday which sounds like fun
I'm going to have a chat with mine on Friday to find out what the confirmed final spec is and get his views on how it drives.
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20-05-2008
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#63 (Post Link)
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Let us know when you do RSK |
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20-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
First pics! 
PistonHeads Headlines
leather dash! yes please!  |
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20-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Same quoted weight as before  Huh |
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20-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
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20-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
is this a sign of WRC.............. things to come.... watch out scoobies and evo's... a blown italian is coming to whip all your a**es...
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20-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
If those details are correct (ie no AWD on the V6) then the weight must have come down, as will the tranmission losses. Therefore it must be faster. I'm guessing that the PR people who have written this press release may have got thier numbers wrong. Either that, or the Prodrive V6 is still AWD.
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20-05-2008
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#69 (Post Link)
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Originally Posted by DavidCane
If those details are correct (ie no AWD on the V6) then the weight must have come down, as will the tranmission losses. Therefore it must be faster. I'm guessing that the PR people who have written this press release may have got thier numbers wrong. Either that, or the Prodrive V6 is still AWD.
Weight of the 2.2 is down by 35Kg and 100Kg on the 3.2, cars will be no quicker just feel more sporty due to the suspension changes. |
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20-05-2008
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Sounds nice but different enough to entice buyers?
Last edited by BigFoot : 20-05-2008 at 15:56.
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20-05-2008
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#71 (Post Link)
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Re: New Prodrive Brera S
Originally Posted by tony44
Weight of the 2.2 is down by 35Kg and 100Kg on the 3.2, cars will be no quicker just feel more sporty due to the suspension changes.
How will they be no quicker if they are lighter?
Also, less play in the suspension means less energy lost as the car's nose rises under acceleration. |
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