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06-05-2008
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To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Would you NOS an Alfa Romeo 159 1.8 2007?
If not why not, if you would why?
I think if done correctly, a good quality kit, progressive controller damage to your engine is unlikely, so is it not just some good fun?
I was going to do it but now im wavering, just looking for some reason not to, or to..
higher insurance costs or service intervals or difficulty sellin on isnt going to bother me. 
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06-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Do it then!....just for the fun of it. lol
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06-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
I say go for it, it's something I've always wanted to do myself, it's just finding the right car to do it to, 
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06-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Nos ? 
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06-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Yeah! Helps keep the component suppliers off the DOLE, so go for it, and stop them rattling their charity collection boxes! 
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06-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Gas, Nitrous Oxide Injection System, Bang! 
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06-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Santa Pod here we come again, with a Big Mother of a dragster. Where the Real Men play wheels. Not charging around the streets with pathetic attempts that knacker the motors.   Sarkie ole' Git today, ain't I?  :
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06-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Always useful to have a can handy,prior to pulling that rotten molar out, with minimum pain inflicted, as you grip with those pliers.  What a Laugh that would be? 
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06-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
I'd do it, if you can afford it. Its always nice to have a bit more power 
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Originally Posted by zulu ferret
Always useful to have a can handy,prior to pulling that rotten molar out, with minimum pain inflicted, as you grip with those pliers.  What a Laugh that would be? 
Zulu, sometimes its like reading shakespeare reading your posts, im sure there is a message in there somewhere?
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Nitrous Oxide gave me my first ever half-crown as a youngster, which was reward enough for having teeth removed at the dentists.  :N 2 O, (Laughing Gas) was the common form of anaesthetic administered in those days, where a rubber mask was put over your face, and you gradually left this world in a myriad of expanding circles, with the feeling of drowning,and suffocating. I expect it was a step up from chloroform??
Small quantities were more of a joke I guess, as these did produce the effect of uncontrolled humour, hence the title. No easy as pie local anaesthetics then, or intravenous injections to put you under!  : I remember waking up after the effects, being violently sick, spitting blood, over this green rubber apron, which in itself had a not too pleasant odour, into a bowl. More of the same when I had my Tonsills removed round about the same time  : Still as my Gramps' told me, better than going down the local market to have teeth pulled, fully conscious, with those pliers, as he had to?  :
Fillings were also administered with no local injection, and the belt driven drill bit still lives in etched in my memory, with it's slow, grinding,rasping effect, reverberating though your skull, accompanied with lots of personal ARGGH'SS! to take ones mind off the procedure.  : Never had a belt snap, that I recall.
So if you young 'fastards' are using a similar gas to make your motors blow up,(I didn't know it was a legal material? Chemists please??) just remember us pioneers in it's useage, and the pain and suffering we endured?  Hence my comparaive joy at having modern day dental treatment, it's a social event for this old 'Codger' so get some in!! 
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Not. It'll melt your engine and put too much strain on the other components 
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Agreed Sqn, it's a hard,( and can be expensive) learning process for some though mate!  :
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Back in the early 50's they used nitro-methane as an additive to achieve much about the same result. As an explosive it supports its own combustion, containing oxygen. The tricky bit was not using too much, so melting the pistons. It was still quite common to use methanol to cool the valves.
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Is the stuff they are using similar to the anaesthetics, sleeping gas, I spoke of KG? Or have I got muddled again? Surely it's risky stuff if it is, to have on the open market? Guess you or someone will know? 
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
N2O appears to be basically the same, but NOS may have different additives, don't reallly know.
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Originally Posted by zulu ferret
Gas, Nitrous Oxide Injection System, Bang! 
Ta, ZF 
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07-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Originally Posted by zulu ferret
Is the stuff they are using similar to the anaesthetics, sleeping gas, I spoke of KG? Or have I got muddled again? Surely it's risky stuff if it is, to have on the open market? Guess you or someone will know? 
Never did me any harm. 
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10-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Originally Posted by Squadrone Rosso
Not. It'll melt your engine and put too much strain on the other components 
What even if I only had 25bhp or 50hp? Fitter who is an agent of Wizards of NOS said i could safely have 75 to 100 bhp, all be it i bet this is his opinion of what a typical european engine/transmission of a mainstream manufacturer could handle.
My car other than the engine/gear box and exhaust is the same as a 2.2 so it could take upto 185bhp?
Also i keep thinking back to the review done by filth gear when they had a WON kit on a diesel VW golf, they were over the moon with it, and this was a televised review for a serious modification not a Top Gear like loony thing.
I might still do it, but reign back from 75 to 100, and perhaps stick with 25bhp or 50bhp injector?
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10-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
start small and if it works ok then bump it up a notch... i'd start at 25bhp, then go to 50bhp... it 'd be a bit extra money to get both injectors and change them out, but you're safer off than starting higher than the engine can handle and having it melt...
Depending how much you're looking to spend on doing it you could get your internals forged/strengthened? Should be able to hold a fair bit extra power then....
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10-05-2008
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Re: To Nos or not to Nos - that is the question
Cheers for that, explain forging of the externals a bit more for me?  ,
I agree i think a modest push to the engine of say 25bhp is enough just to give a little extra urge in overtaking where necessary.....
You are suppose to fit "colder" plugs, know anything about that?
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