2.2 JTS hesitation - now with new IMPORTANT information & escalation details

[Ran Sid]

Martin,

I'm right with you on this one. I gave 'em six months which will be up in December, I was getting the same garbage from Alfa, as has been recounted in the last few threads, months ago. One minute italy are working on a definite solution, the next is a "characteristic". They can't even be consistant in the response

I contacted Auto Express some time ago and they did not respond, I take it they are are not interested.... By the way, my local dealer is no better than they were when I bought my 156 off them 5 years ago, still full bulls**t.

[Pud237]

Originally Posted by Martin G

So, Audi, mazda or what? mmm

Thats the hardest thing.. I would probably go with Mazda, they do make good looking cars that are fun to drive. Not quite as good looking as the current range of Alfas, but they are not bad. Shame you are leaving the brand but I can understand why. You could always get an older Alfa as a weekend car, that way you can avoid the dealers

Originally Posted by Ran Sid

Martin,

I'm right with you on this one. I gave 'em six months which will be up in December, I was getting the same garbage from Alfa, as has been recounted in the last few threads, months ago. One minute italy are working on a definite solution, the next is a "characteristic". They can't even be consistant in the response

I contacted Auto Express some time ago and they did not respond, I take it they are are not interested.... By the way, my local dealer is no better than they were when I bought my 156 off them 5 years ago, still full bulls**t.

stop your whining and get a remap...

Originally Posted by tony44

I won't, not if this is the support you get from Alfa UK.

why don't you guys get a remap yourselves for god sake.

[Pud237]

Originally Posted by 68alfa

stop your whining and get a remap...

Originally Posted by 68alfa

why don't you guys get a remap yourselves for god sake.

Firstly, cause then you would invalidate your warranty, secondly cause you shouldn't have to on a £20k+ car. It should be right from the factory. Why don't Alfa UK support their customers? Do they want to succeed in the UK? You'd think not from their actions..

I know as far as you are concerned they can do no wrong, but I'd never buy an Alfa in warranty no matter how much I earn until I see a big improvement from ARUK, at the moment ARUK is still the biggest liability when it comes to Alfa Ownership.

[tony44]

Originally Posted by 68alfa

why don't you guys get a remap yourselves for god sake.

FFS why should we have to pay for a bloody remap? the car should be right.

[Squadrone Rosso]

Originally Posted by 68alfa

stop your whining and get a remap...

Why should we pay to cure our cars & in doing so, invalidate our warranties

Originally Posted by 68alfa

why don't you guys get a remap yourselves for god sake.

You come accross as so supportive. Almost like an Aussie troll

Originally Posted by tony44

FFS why should we have to pay for a bloody remap? the car should be right.

What T says

i have had problems with company cars under warranty in the past mazda, toyota, ford, including alfa romeo. electrics in 2007 mazda 3 were constantly failing. the dealer was a complete joke, constantly playing me off. in the end i gave up! went to a local garage. problem solved.
what fuel are you lads running in your 2.2s?
honestly, do not know anyone in australia with this hesitation problem. weird i say...

save the headaches get a remap o.k!

[Breraboy]

Originally Posted by 68alfa

i have had problems with company cars under warranty in the past mazda, toyota, ford, including alfa romeo. electrics in 2007 mazda 3 were constantly failing. the dealer was a complete joke, constantly playing me off. in the end i gave up! went to a local garage. problem solved.
what fuel are you lads running in your 2.2s?
honestly, do not know anyone in australia with this hesitation problem. weird i say...

save the headaches get a remap o.k!

yes guys and remember to send the bill to 68alfa

[Commanderfish]

Originally Posted by Pud237

I know as far as you are concerned they can do no wrong, but I'd never buy an Alfa in warranty no matter how much I earn until I see a big improvement from ARUK, at the moment ARUK is still the biggest liability when it comes to Alfa Ownership.

It is annoying as hell, but you know what, it is actually better than BMW who refused to find anything wrong with the clutches on my mother in laws 3 series and my wife's mini cooper (same problem, both cars!!!). The family have ditched both brands.

[Pud237]

Originally Posted by Commanderfish

It is annoying as hell, but you know what, it is actually better than BMW who refused to find anything wrong with the clutches on my mother in laws 3 series and my wife's mini cooper (same problem, both cars!!!). The family have ditched both brands.

I'd never buy a new Beemer either, don't wanna look like a sales rep (no offence if you're reading this GhostyDog )

Its not like every Beemer has a bad clutch though is it.. BMW don't call it a characteristic of the car.

[Martin G]

Originally Posted by 68alfa

i have had problems with company cars under warranty in the past mazda, toyota, ford, including alfa romeo. electrics in 2007 mazda 3 were constantly failing. the dealer was a complete joke, constantly playing me off. in the end i gave up! went to a local garage. problem solved.
what fuel are you lads running in your 2.2s?
honestly, do not know anyone in australia with this hesitation problem. weird i say...

save the headaches get a remap o.k!

STOP the thread!! its ok, all is sorted, we have a solution!!

Oh boy, for a start sir, a remap wont fix everything in particular the issue I have with my car. As for whoever says this is all bickering, thats probably because you dont have to live with the problems yourself so lets have something constructive eh?

Originally Posted by Martin G

STOP the thread!! its ok, all is sorted, we have a solution!!

Oh boy, for a start sir, a remap wont fix everything in particular the issue I have with my car. As for whoever says this is all bickering, thats probably because you dont have to live with the problems yourself so lets have something constructive eh?

sorry, did not mean to offend.
how about a free pair of sneakers from my store to cheer you up. Highs and Lows

[MiniC]

Any progress on this? Im taking ownership of a 07 2.2JTS 159 on wednesday.

If I have this problem is there any sign of a fix or are we still in the stage of registering a complaint?

[pete 159]

I agree totally with you on this one Martin Ive had my 06 model from new, its been in the dealers on 5 occasions top try and get the problems solved and i have spoke to Alfa UK about it. it will be a different make of car when i decide to change.

[Nev]

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Well, according to our poll, >90% of respondents have a problem with this otherwise well running engine.


Have to admit I'm starting to scope out for a new car next year and I'm definately looking at other marques this time. If all they can offer is a big **** you! "It's meant to drive like that." then screw them.

[tony44]

Will be sorry to see you leave Nev, i agree ****** Alfa if they are going to ignore owners, i will take my money else where.

[Nev]

Originally Posted by tony44

Will be sorry to see you leave Nev, i agree ****** Alfa if they are going to ignore owners, i will take my money else where.

We'll see what the new year brings.
Maybe a revamped range of engines
and an outstanding trade-in will keep
some of us happy.


(My dealer contact took early retirement
last month, so that's 8 years of relationship
building with the service department out the window.
)

[tony44]

Originally Posted by Nev

We'll see what the new year brings.
Maybe a revamped range of engines
and an outstanding trade-in will keep
some of us happy.


(My dealer contact took early retirement
last month, so that's 8 years of relationship
building with the service department out the window.
)

Outstanding trade-in

[Nev]

Originally Posted by tony44

Outstanding trade-in

50% after 5 years for the 147. I'm sure they can
match that.

[tony44]

Originally Posted by Nev

50% after 5 years for the 147. I'm sure they can
match that.

Maybe in France against another Alfa.
I can only just get 50% now and my Brera is just 2 years old, probably get a touch more against another Alfa but I'm dissappointed with the attitude Alfa have taken over the hesitation issue so why should I give them my business.

[Martin G]

Originally Posted by 68alfa

sorry, did not mean to offend.
how about a free pair of sneakers from my store to cheer you up. Highs and Lows

no offence taken, I was just being as flippant as you were.

[MiniC]

Started new thead instead.

[Tango India]

ORIGINALLY posted by PUD237

" don't wanna look like a sales rep "

Any sales rep with an Alfa must be doing VERY well for themselves Have you seen the lease costs

[Pud237]

Originally Posted by Tango Indigo

ORIGINALLY posted by PUD237

" don't wanna look like a sales rep "

Any sales rep with an Alfa must be doing VERY well for themselves Have you seen the lease costs

And the company car tax rating!