Thinking of getting me tappets sorted soon so I'm also thinking about dropping some fast road cams in as a little treat. I've emailed one supplier and they came back with a price of £900 for the pair!!!
Does anyone know where I can pick some up at a more reasonable price?
bad news, those are very expensive, i looked around a few months ago, and most are between $700-$1000...
now, i guy i know put some in his 97 GTV V6 3.0. he was not very impressed with the improvment on the car...so that made me think twice about investing that kind of money.
Did I read on here once that the 164 3.0 cams fitted and gave a good increase ??????
I'm sure there was a link to some webpage explaining this ???
If anybody finds out then please let me know as my V6 is sounding like an old Maestro diesel at the mo' so I think I might as well sort out the cams as well while I'm down there ....
The original V6 motor as fitted to the gtv6 and 75 gives more power if fitted with cams from the 164s (cloverleaf in UK) I don't know if they would work in the V6 fitted to a 155. I also suspect they may be somewhat difficult to come by. http://www.alfaowner.com/forum/ubb/icons/icon200.gif
C&B were pretty reasonable for the Q4 - they worked out about £400 (from EB spares as it happens) - I mailed C&B direct & they responded pretty quick & got a couple of their UK people to contact me. You can also try poweralfa - they also to C&B cams.
8-900 sounds about right for 4 cams wink
to be fair, they are probably the best you can go for (& the guys at squadra normally have a plug & go chip written for an engine which has them in! cool huh?)
Wrinx, I was going to say (but fade2grey kind of said it too) that EB Spares cams will almost certainly all be C&B.
Have you tried Autodelta? It's no good looking at their website because all they show is stuff for the newer cars but they do have tuning bits for the 'oldies' like ours as well. Give them a ring on 020 8838 3535. While you're at it you could go for their 3.2 litre conversion (based on the 12v 2.5 litre) - about £3500 all in, from memory.
I have to disagree with fade2grey about the chip - after my experience with a 'plug and go' chip with non-standard cams I'd avoid them like the plague - get the car set up properly.
alright Ian.. I know you've had grief with your chip, but I've got a squadra in the Q4 & there are quite a few guys on here with them too & can't fault it. It works well & reliably. Fair enough, you'll never get that extra 10th & it won't cater for head work or any internal changes but if you are sticking to external\bolt on mods it's a nice way to get the extra power without throwing money away.
Of course if you change anything a 'proper' fully mapped chip can just be remapped & will also normally have nicer curves (oohh err). But don't knock plug & goes - some of them (not all) are pretty good.
fade2grey, I think you misunderstood me. I have nothing against 'off the shelf' chips (I've installed or had them installed them in previous cars) where mods are limited to things like filter and exhaust. They are, as you say, an economical and reliable way to improve power and drivability.
My point (which, in hindsight, I didn't make very well) was that an off the shelf chip is unlikely to be satisfactory where major internal components such as cams have been changed. This comment was aimed specifically at wrinx who was talking about upgrading his cams.
In fact I have to say that, having driven several chipped cars (both turbo and normally aspirated), I can't see any reason NOT to fit a Squadra/Superchip etc to any car for which one is available. They should be fitted as standard.
For Wrinxy though.. if all he gets is say cams & an air filter Squadra have a chip mapped for the cams which can just plug in. This is different to the vanilla squadra & optimises the mapping for the C&B cams. Best of both worlds.