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Not Happy GT - So this is why my mirrors won't fold.

Took the door mirrors off in preparation for a respray of the covers, thought it a good opportunity to look into why the mirrors no longer fold.

Look at the state of them, build up of oxidisation has seized them solid.

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Quite brilliant using what looks like aluminium, anyone managed to free theirs that have been in this state...or worse?

I'm thinking it will just be a waste of good Plusgas.

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had exactly the same problem on mine. Eventually one just broke off, so had to replace it. No idea why they used aluminium for this
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had exactly the same problem on mine. Eventually one just broke off, so had to replace it. No idea why they used aluminium for this
Same problem. With one off the car over a weekend I tried penetrating oil, force, more penetrating oil, more force, descaler fluid, even more force and finally decided it would break if I persisted so put it back on the car.
Spraying behind the mirror with WD40 via a tube and folding a few times should be part of a standard service.
As should spraying behind the door handles onto the hinges which suffer from the same problem.

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Just realised I have the same issue with one the other day .
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Caught mine on a fence post, just clean snapped the aluminium bits in two, corroded solid. Bodged back together by filling remaining aluminium bits with body filler and clamping together until set. Been fine ever since ... except it still doesn't fold of course.
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common problem on many marques.. so not just us

for once!

BMW E36 mirrors seize solid as well, only solution to change for after market plastic internals.
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I reckon it's actually spider-poop - you know, those little guys that live in your wing mirror and come out to build a web right after you washed the car? .
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I guess the only remedy is to regularly collapse the mirrors flat, then fold-out again, once a week?
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Once you've freed them off, remember to fold them in & out regularly to stop it happening again.

As for freeing them off in the first place, my method was to give them a good spraying in penetrating fluid, then cover with a thick towel and a give them a swift kick like you were trying to boot someone's door in, roughly in the direction the mirror wants to fold in on. It'll either break the bond between the ally parts or simply snap the mirror clean off, in which case you'll have to replace it. If you do free them off, and I mostly got lucky with them, then give them another good spraying while you work the mirror in & out over and over to clear out all the remaining allyoxide.
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Once you've freed them off, remember to fold them in & out regularly to stop it happening again.

As for freeing them off in the first place, my method was to give them a good spraying in penetrating fluid
Where do you spray? Just behind the mirror? Or in the seam where it should fold?
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Yes, behind the mirror glass, you can see the corroded aluminium parts in the images above.
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Cheers, fingers crossed I can get it to budge!
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Cheers, fingers crossed I can get it to budge!
I took the mirrors off. The fixing bolts are behind the triangular shaped trim above the door card. Don't attempt to undo the small torx screws under the mirror; they will just shear off. Once off, you can spray WD40 behind the glass directly at the rotating joint and see what you're doing. Give it plenty of time to soak, preferably overnight, and carefully keep trying to turn the mirror housing against the mounting bracket. Be patient and you will eventually get it to move and keep spraying WD40. Once you're satisfied it is turning freely, clean off all the WD40 from the outside and then give the internals a generous spray of white grease. I did mine a couple of years ago and they are still free. Mind you, I give them a turn when I wash the car to check all is ok.
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I took the mirrors off. The fixing bolts are behind the triangular shaped trim above the door card. Don't attempt to undo the small torx screws under the mirror; they will just shear off. Once off, you can spray WD40 behind the glass directly at the rotating joint and see what you're doing. Give it plenty of time to soak, preferably overnight, and carefully keep trying to turn the mirror housing against the mounting bracket. Be patient and you will eventually get it to move and keep spraying WD40. Once you're satisfied it is turning freely, clean off all the WD40 from the outside and then give the internals a generous spray of white grease. I did mine a couple of years ago and they are still free. Mind you, I give them a turn when I wash the car to check all is ok.
Cheers Richard, will have a look over the weekend and see how we go.
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I reckon it's actually spider-poop - you know, those little guys that live in your wing mirror and come out to build a web right after you washed the car? .
Everyone should have an extreme sports spider!!
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Took my GT about 7 years to lose its folding ability. Always wondered what the cause was. Thanks!


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.....give them a swift kick like you were trying to boot someone's door in, roughly in the direction the mirror wants to fold in on....and I mostly got lucky with them.
Speaking as someone who hasn't got access to an unlimited supply of spare wing mirrors I'll give 'booting' them a miss.

Besides, my neighbours think I'm crazy as it is. I can see it now. 'Come and look what he's doing to it now, he's giving it a right kicking...finally got to him it has'!

I've given them a soak in Plusgas and will leave them today, give them another good spraying and see where we are in the morning. If they move great, if not I'll put up with it.

Any product recommendations for spraying the black plastic parts of the door mirrors, gone a bit milky in places?

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....Any product recommendations for spraying the black plastic parts of the door mirrors, gone a bit milky in places?
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Both mine have gone too - so awaiting Pub's report before I have a bash myself (not literally hopefully).
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Speaking as someone who hasn't got access to an unlimited supply of spare wing mirrors I'll give 'booting' them a miss.

Besides, my neighbours think I'm crazy as it is. I can see it now. 'Come and look what he's doing to it now, he's giving it a right kicking...finally got to him it has'!

I've given them a soak in Plusgas and will leave them today, give them another good spraying and see where we are in the morning. If they move great, if not I'll put up with it.

Any product recommendations for spraying the black plastic parts of the door mirrors, gone a bit milky in places?

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If I had to put a number on it I'd say 4 out of 5 times it was successful, and used mirrors are getting cheaper and easier to get hold of now that GTs are being broken up for spares a lot. Plusgas helps but it won't free them off in itself and the mirror bracket is quite weak, you will feel it flex with a steady bit of torque on it. What frees them off well is the shock, like cracking off a stuck bolt, if you don't want to boot them then you can use the palm of your hand to try and do the same thing but you might not be able to generate enough force to break the seal.

If you're not that bothered about them folding in, then you can just leave them as is, it won't do them any harm being seized up unless you clip wing mirrors with someone in which case it'll either free up and turn in or snap.
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Took the door mirrors off in preparation for a respray of the covers, thought it a good opportunity to look into why the mirrors no longer fold.

Look at the state of them, build up of oxidisation has seized them solid.

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Quite brilliant using what looks like aluminium, anyone managed to free theirs that have been in this state...or worse?

I'm thinking it will just be a waste of good Plusgas.

All the best

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Yeah both of mine are seized solid
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Speaking as someone who hasn't got access to an unlimited supply of spare wing mirrors I'll give 'booting' them a miss.

Besides, my neighbours think I'm crazy as it is. I can see it now. 'Come and look what he's doing to it now, he's giving it a right kicking...finally got to him it has'!

I've given them a soak in Plusgas and will leave them today, give them another good spraying and see where we are in the morning. If they move great, if not I'll put up with it.

Any product recommendations for spraying the black plastic parts of the door mirrors, gone a bit milky in places?

All the best

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Pub, did you ever get them unstuck?
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Pub, did you ever get them unstuck?
Nope, couldn't bring myself to give them the boot. I'm living with it.

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Nope, couldn't bring myself to give them the boot. I'm living with it.

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I had a hugely frustrating day trying to resolve this yesterday. Though I was being super careful when removing it one of the bolts now resides in the bottom of my door . Onward I went. Left it bathed in penetrating oil for a few hours. Still nothing. Couldn't leave it overnight as the missus needed the car. I then tried to do the boot against a padded hard surface, nothing but I did manage to get a piece of broken plastic to fly through the air - double . Oddly I cannot see anywhere on the outside of the mirror where this plastic came from but as it's the same colour it had to come from the mirror. I then started checking the net for a replacement out and lo and behold there is one on the bay in my colour. Result thought I. I mail the guy to ask if a) it comes with the bolts and b) does it still fold? a) Yes b) negative. So now it's back on with two bolts, a small chip of plastic missing from somewhere and still won't bloody move! That'll teach me to leave well enough alone.
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