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156 Boot Lid Stuck

My boot lid is stuck on my 2004 156.
The lever in the car doesn't work and neither does the remote button on the key fob. (The fuel flap lever still works)
Any ideas for a quick fix anybody, or do I have to take it back to the garage again?
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**PROBLEM SOLVED SEE MY LAST POST**

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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Can you reach thru the ski hole in the back seat?

Probly not, hang on I'll try on mine see if I can find a way
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

All i can come up with is if you really need access to boot, use a stiff rod (fnarr, fnarr) thru the ski flap to push the wee lever across from inside. you'll have about 5mm room. Other than that maybe track the cable route from your lever, it might have come off at the lever end. Definitely a visit to garage in the offing tho I'm afraid.
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Thanks for that.
I will have a go tomorrow.
I can understand why the leaver won't work if the cable has come off but I wonder why the remote won't unlock the boot?
Or does a motor pull the cable to unlock it?
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Can you hear anything responding when you push the button, I mean near your lever or at the boot?
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Have you tried rotating the Alfa badge and using the key in the lock?

Often people don't know theres key hole under the badge...
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My 53 plate 156 jts doesn't have a lock under the badge!!
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My 53 plate 156 jts doesn't have a lock under the badge!!
Whats under the badge then? Are you sure? It rotates anti-clockwise, up and to the right..
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Checked, absolutely nothing there, looked inside under the lining before I ripped the badge off.
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

No! Moosecaledonia is correct. There isn't a lock behind the badge on the boot. It's what Alfa call progress I suppose.

I have tried to reach the lock through the ski hole with a long screwdirver but I can only reach the lock if I turn my head away and I then can't see what I'm doing.
I don't know where to put the screwdriver anyway it doesn't seem possible.
The photo shows what I am working with. Only access through the ski hole remember.

There is no noise when I push the button on my key or when I pull the lever in the car.

Any other ideas?

Looks like another trip to the garage when I can get there.
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

i think interior facelifts lost the hidden lock, i dont have one either, but i could be too weak to twist it off (ooh-er missus)

and i even saw a car with only key fob entry and no handle by the drivers seat - i could be wrong about that.
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Use your picture as a good view of where you need to look. These 2 posts reveal the fix...

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...nt-unlock.html

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-...-tailgate.html

But here's the bit you need...

I was about to attack the two 10mm bolts holding the lock when I noticed you could see where the solenoid hits the release lever. I just lightly touched it with a flat bladed screwdriver and it all sprung open.
I now know I could have got the screwdriver into that void without taking off the trim!!! You just can't see it without getting your head into the place where the trim was.
So if it happens to anyone else just slide a screwdriver down the 'drivers side' of the lock mechanism.
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Thanks for the post Chris.
I gave it a try and managed to slip the plastic cover off (By accident) to reveal the works. Ihad a go with a long screwdriver but I still can't get the boot open.
Picture shows what I can see.

I can hear a click in the boot when I press the key fob but nothing moves on the lock mechanism.

Any more thoughts?
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

I can see the problem. Just as mine. The trip lever has somehow got the wrong side of the opening lever.

I should have got an image attached now.

The red lever opens the boot
The blue lever is the trip lever that moves to the right to push the opening lever.
You can see that the blue needs to be to the left of the (red) opening lever for it all to work.
Once I had levered the red to the right it all sprung open. You might have to get someone to pull the lever by the drivers seat to relieve the pressure will you push the red one.
Once mine was open the levers just sorted themselves out to the correct position.
I think mine was caused by my wife slamming the lock onto a bag strap.
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Chris

Are you 100% sure about this?
The blue lever can't go underneath the red because the red is attached full depth to the lever, (See attachment) it can only go over the top of the red lever and I am having trouble with this.
Remembering I am doing all this through the ski hole.
I have adapted an allen key clamped into some mole grips which are taped to a walking stick. I have managed to get the allen key behind the blue lever and pulled forward but nothing is happening yet, although it is now moving slightly left and right when I click the button on my key fob. Progress I suppose

Are you sure the blue should be to the left of the red before I pull like mad and do some damage?

Can anybody photograph their lock for me and post it so I can see what their lock arrangement looks like?
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Success!

THE BOOT IS OPEN.

I managed to pull the blue lever and push the red one enough to get the blue one on top of the red one.
I then managed to push it over with a screwdriver taped to the walking stick.
I pushed the blue lever down slightly and clicked the boot relaese and the boot opened.................

The blue lever does bend fairly easily backwards and forwards and I could see it breaking off if it is bent too much

Phew!

Thanks Chris and to everybody else who helped.

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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Perhaps I'm confusing you.
The arrangement of the Blue and Red is what you need when everything is working.
For now, concentrate on the Red lever. It needs to be pushed to the right (towards the left side of the car) so that the boot opens.
It might help if someone is operating the lever by the drivers seat so that the Blue lever is also moving to the right and relieving the pressure on the Red.
Once open you should find it closes properly and the Blue and Red are then the right way round.
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Well it wasn't the way I expected but well done. If it happens again just push the Red lever.
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Mmmm - I've got the same problem on a T plate 156 - happened when my wife was using the car. The release hande by the driver's door seems to have so much play in it I can only guess that the cable has broken or been stretched beyond use and my remote doesn't have a boot release. Key access behind the badge doesn't work either! It seems to turn the lock but the boot is still steadfastly shut!

I'll have to get my head in the ski port with a torch and see what is going on. Doesn't help that the boot has a pushchair in it!
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Here is my situation (after prising off the plastic cover with a golf umbrella!)

Any advice on what I need to prod/push?

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Can you remove the rear seats without boot access?
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Re: 156 Boot Lid Stuck

Not sure...... - anyway I was losing the light fast and have literally (within the last 30 secs) been 'levering away' with a screwdriver in the same vain as Bronco and Chris Nason suggested. With the assistance of my more than capable wife doing random 'key turning' whilst I was levering we have managed to get it open!

I dread to think how much my local garage would have charged me to do the same thing! Thanks to everyone - the pictures you all posted helped enormously.
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Not sure...... - anyway I was losing the light fast and have literally (within the last 30 secs) been 'levering away' with a screwdriver in the same vain as Bronco and Chris Nason suggested. With the assistance of my more than capable wife doing random 'key turning' whilst I was levering we have managed to get it open!

I dread to think how much my local garage would have charged me to do the same thing! Thanks to everyone - the pictures you all posted helped enormously.
I seem to remember reading that there is a string pull somewhere in the boot that releases the lock. Might be thinking of some other car I've owned.
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