The GT of mine is the first diesel powered engine in my life. I hesitate a lot before i bought this one, but i can tell you that every day confirms the fact that my decision was a good choise. In every day usage this engine gives a lot of fun. No need to revs it high, it has enough power to only push the pedal to overtake someone in any gear.
The only disadvantage is the diesel noise (especially in case of cold engine), which can hear only from outside and of course the smell of a fuel.
JTDm engine in a GT is a great combination. I like it better and better.
Very well put
Originally Posted by alfamanGTV2000
mmm, what would JC say?
I've had Alfa's from 80's until now. had 1.5 boxers through 1.7's, 2.0 litres, up to 3.0litres, all petrol.
Why would anyone other than commercial traveller want a diesel?????????????
Thinking about it, if I was a rep I'd want a proper Alfa to enjoy over all those miles.
Regards to all.
For economy. I think it is way more economical than a V6. Mine averages 44mpg (work=18 miles one way, a bit more on proper long journeys) 15k/year average. Road fund licence is about £180 a year.
I have had two simple issues with the JTDm engine:-
- EGR, that's a pain that requires 1 hour every three or four months of my time to clean it. Cost = £0.
- When I bought the car in 2011 I replaced the lower turbo hose = £70 and about an hour of my time.
I have paid for a cambelt change recently at my local, it being an engine used in Saabs and Vauxhalls I did not have to pay specialist prices = £220. Oh and it was a five year belt change, not a (frankly) pathetic three years for the petrol engine.
What I think is **** about the GT is the front suspension. Upper wishbones done once, drop links twice and it still clunks (ARB?). Replaced all four discs and rear upper suspension bearings (bushes I'd call them) and lower longitudinal arms. That lot cost a few quid and lot of my time.
Oh and six bloody tyres as it seems to eat them. Perhaps a four wheel alignment in the future.
Originally Posted by alfamanGTV2000
Why do diesel owners apologise so much yet petrol owners just don't?
Just a thought!
I hate the clatter box diesel because it sounds vile but compared to the JTS it's a peach (my GT is a daily snotter). I complain about the racket but don't ever apologise
Well basically, pretty well anyone here would like a petrol Alfa if they could afford the price of the fuel.
Having said that, with the real-world performance and economy you can get from a diesel, you'd have to have a Busso V6 to outperform a well-remapped 1.9JTDm, let alone a 2.4.
That's the reality of it. I always promised myself a Busso and then the price of petrol went through the roof. Now I've pretty well retired from work and my annual mileage will be a lot less, I might consider. But it'd have to be an early-ish one which doesn't get hit by the punitive VED.
Me too, I'd love a Busso and one day I probably will
Seriously, whats the real cost difference between for example JTD vs JTS ?
I do around 220 miles a week and wouldn't ever consider a diesel, that mileage uses half a tank though most on motorways, so it costs just over £30 and as a rough estimate, would probably save £6-8 a week running diesel.
Not even the price of a takeaway, and before anyone mentions JTS engine problems, mine runs very sweet week in week out.
Looking at all the associated issues with the JTD, the potential for the savings running derv can be very quickly wiped out.
They just seem a false economy imo
My diesel runs well aswell and if you read above the maintenance is much lower than a petrol engine that most garages won't touch
. Your road fund license is more expensive too (£100/year more appx). I do about 270 miles/week. I'm sure mine is doing at least 10miles more/gallon than a JTS. Any saving for me is worth it and whilst the JTS probably sounds good (not so as the TS I'm informed?) that is the only benefit over my tractor. All the dealers I spoke to (well two
) said the JTD was the best [all rounder] engine for the GT.
I'm lucky I have two petrol engine cars for the weekend so I get the best of both worlds. Long live my GT Tractor
As always hearsay and such account for nothing in the real world. What counts is your own personal experience. My GT is not cheap, it's not cheap because of it's lego like suspension but there are others that have had no issues in that respect. Whilst I am not a diesel fan the look of the GT combined with the economy has been an excellent choice for me