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Doubt it will matter that much. A splitter of that size won't really make too much difference at road speeds.
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Well happy new year guys. Drove down to heathrow to meet the girlfriend last night, so got a bit of time to assess the new setup. Was windy on the m4 and she felt really planted with the new splitter giving me front down force. Also the breather system seems fine, no reason why it shouldn't. So all in all really happy with the car, in fact love the new look of the front. Just looks so mean now. Great start to the new year..

Oh and here goes, made a decision on the clutch situation. After careful deliberation and assessment and getting to drive various setups, cheers Ned and Craig at Autolusso. I have decided to keep the dmf and go with a bespoke stage 2 item by JTD performance. Joel has had huge experience with his 270bhp 147 and has tried various clutch set ups and has been using dmf and same bespoke clutch with 500nm. Reasons for this are it keeps a smooth clutch action in traffic. The smf with GTA clutch is a great tough setup but me being ocd+ i need a stock feel setup. I really am thankful for Ned and Joel's time and communication on the whole clutch saga. Will be booking her in at Autolusso soon for the clutch job. Then hopefully we can get her on the rollers in feb. Trying to get an appointment with devilsown WMI specialists to get a kit fitted before she hits the rollers for a map tweak. Also have a 3.5 bar map sensor on its way from Joel at JTD performance.

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FWIW Damien, I think you're making the right decision in keeping a DMF. Much more manageable in the inevitable bit of traffic, and at lights etc.
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FWIW Damien, I think you're making the right decision in keeping a DMF. Much more manageable in the inevitable bit of traffic, and at lights etc.
Thanks mate. It was not an easy decision, i think the harsher reacting smf would have put me off driving her. This GT has such a lovely smooth clutch pedal and gearbox action, and i didn't want to loose that if i could. Joel said his stage 2 will feel a little bit harsher but not enough to notice or hamper heavy traffic driving.

Joel has been using the same setup in his beasty GTB turbo'd 147. And he has had a clutch made for me in the same spec.
I drove a smf fixed fly with gta clutch and then kindly Craigs 156 2.4 with smf and stage 2 clutch it felt really harsh in traffic. The depth of thought, stress and sleepless nights gone into this decision are monumental..lol..

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The depth of thought, stress and sleepless nights gone into this decision are monumental..lol..

Anyone else, and i'd assume they were joking.

This guy Joel is making it for you? Apart fron NM's rating, whats the difference between this and stock clutch? Bigger and thicker???



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This guy Joel is making it for you? Apart fron NM's rating, whats the difference between this and stock clutch? Bigger and thicker???



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Its a dual friction clutch but made to Joel's personal tolerances. I hope Joel himself can properly explain.
To get something to work when putting out a near potential 500nm on the turbocharged jtd engine is a different kettle of fish to big power of a 3.2 busso.

Then its all about mapping the power in properly, trying carefully not to create too much torque too early at the 2700k rev point, and build up the huge amount of available power with the GTB in a linear fashion. Same goes for even my Hybrid turbo putting out high levels of boost.
I am properly looking forward to this next chapter. As i think the car will become very effective, i need to get wmi fitted before getting her on the dyno to map tweak though. As i think this will be a lovely safe guard feature for decent reliable power.

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Sounding great Damien..!

we are both very close to our aims...lets hope we can work it out so we do a red dot day together..that will be a right laugh!

have the intercooler in my possession now ,ready to go on as and when we get a nice dry day that is not to cold..in the meantime my hybrid will be made..probably to your spec...makes sense as it is now tried and tested on the 1.9 JTDm.

I have decided to leave the clutch as is for now, I am aware it is the limiting factor but it is brand new ,been in only about 7 months along with a new DMF, I can't bring myself to do it again so quickly..and it is uprated from the OEM one so should be good for a while. if i can get a year out of it with the new power levels I will be happy.

so I will re-map to about 225 bhp avoiding torque spikes between 2000 -2500 rpm, I have emailed Joel as well, this is the advice he gives, sound like you have been told the same.

I think with WMI and all of the other mods our engines are good for 270-300 BHP if they are mapped cleverly and the drive train can take it, sounds like with the custom clutch you have it covered.

when you look back in 6 months hopefully you will see ''clutchgate'' as a minor blip along the road to having a very powerful and solid car...
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Just had to share this utterly stunning GT with you.
From the very first time my dad sent me my first picture of a GT back in 2004, i fell in love with it instantly. "To me" its stunning. Never once have i not turned round to take a last look after parking her in the company car park, before i go to work to fly off to god knows where with my job. After all these years the passion is still strong..

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Just had to share this utterly stunning GT with you.
From the very first time my dad sent me my first picture of a GT back in 2004, i fell in love with it instantly. "To me" its stunning. Never once have i not turned round to take a last look after parking her in the company car park, before i go to work to fly off to god knows where with my job. After all these years the passion is still strong..

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The GT cloverleaf in Atlantico blue is stunning. I was very close to buying one a couple of years back, got to be honest I think I made the right choice getting a Giulietta specially after reading some of the potentail problems on here but I also slightly regret not taking the plunge, I mean seeing that in my drive would be something else.
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The GT cloverleaf in Atlantico blue is stunning. I was very close to buying one a couple of years back, got to be honest I think I made the right choice getting a Giulietta specially after reading some of the potentail problems on here but I also slightly regret not taking the plunge, I mean seeing that in my drive would be something else.

it is a beautiful looking car...100%

re the guilietta well I tried a few and think its a good car but even the QV I tried recently when buying the wifes new car was lacking that something for me.

in all fairness its probably built better though!
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re the guilietta well I tried a few and think its a good car but even the QV I tried recently when buying the wifes new car was lacking that something for me.

in all fairness its probably built better though!
No argument the Guligetta is better built, but sadly lacking that Alfa magic...Sorry the same with the Bumbrera and Mito..

Joe been thinking you might want to get your car live mapped straight away after the new hybrid. For the reason. It is possible to flatten the torque around 2700 revs to prevent the torque spike that makes the std and stage one clutch slip. As anywhere else in the rev range is pretty much ok. Might save you some money in the long term. And get more mileage from your new clutch and dmf! Just a thought.

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So tonight i decided to definitively remove my rutland catch can arrangement. I had been running this for a while to divert the breather fumes and gunk from entering my turbo inlet hose. No way was i going to let breather fumes blow into my new turbo and induction pipes. It was a great little answer before i fitted my evac scavenger valve fitment, that Ryan at Wizard exhausts beautifully plumbed into my mid downpipe as previously mentioned. Strange not seeing my catch cans in the engine bay. I cannot express enough how important this little mod is, especially remapped jtd's which have more breather fumes that can seriously clog up your turbo and induction hoses over time..

While i was under there i noticed that one of my lower coolent to bulkhead pipes was fouling on the head of the new quick shift bracket. The counterweight is slightly larger in height to the oem version. So i managed to carefully tie up the pipes with a zip tie, and now the rotating counterweight is free from touching the pipe. This must have caused resistance to an extent as there were wear marks on the the counterweight top. So jtd guys who fit the quick shift bracket beware of this pipe. Its not obvious its actually catching until you really look closely.

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No argument the Guligetta is better built, but sadly lacking that Alfa magic...Sorry the same with the Bumbrera and Mito..

Joe been thinking you might want to get your car live mapped straight away after the new hybrid. For the reason. It is possible to flatten the torque around 2700 revs to prevent the torque spike that makes the std and stage one clutch slip. As anywhere else in the rev range is pretty much ok. Might save you some money in the long term. And get more mileage from your new clutch and dmf! Just a thought.

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that was my intention Damien. going to go in stages over the next month, imtercooler on first and evaluate,then the hybrid goes on and within a week the re-map.

hope to have it all put to bed by the beginning of Feb.

p.s also just had 4 wheel laser alignment done....what a transformation this has been!

will be ringing Tom today for a chat about what he has in stock and how we go about doing this next bit...


genuinely excited as I know my car is capable of pushing out another 25-30BHP easily without compromising anything, the aim is nice linear usable power without torque spikes.

I am hoping the induction restriction that is created by the stock cooler will be positively affected when the JTD performance one goes on. I suspect just this will reduce lag a touch as all of the silicon hoses are replaced with steel, so no ballooning of the hoses. if all goes as I expect then I will see a very small gain with slightly crisper throttle response and an earlier turbo spool.

of course the REAL benefit of the FMIC will be unlocked when the map is tweaked.


really looking forward to that day at red dot!
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Thank you for regularly updating this well written and descriptive thread. I?m not often on Alfa Owner, but it?s very refreshing to read such an articulate and informative article.

I have a stock GT Jtdm and I visited Reddot for the first time on an Alfa day last year for a remap. I?m not a fan of diesel power so I wanted a map to smooth out the lumpy torque delivery, and (impossibly!) make it feel more like a petrol! I also wanted the map to be sympathetic to the original clutch and drivetrain (75,000 miles).

My GT went on the rolling road, and achieved 198 BHP and 340 torque - I was over the moon at the results! But on the way home, the clutch was slipping and the flywheel occasionally juddered. It?s OK if I slowly feed in the power, avoiding peak torque.

That was my only experience of mapping. The system seemed quite basic ? Accelerate through the gears and the curve emerges on the screen. There didn?t seem to be any way of tweaking the curve to reduce the torque. I may be wrong, I know very little about how this works, but you may want to check this out before you visit.

It?s time I sorted out my drivetrain though. I?m sorry you?ve been guinea pigs, but it is very much appreciated! You guys know a lot more about this than I do. I?m not into modifying like yourselves, and I?m apprehensive about going down a bespoke clutch route myself. Isn't the DMF still the weak point?

Anyway, keep up the good work guys - Thanks again, and I look forward to reading how you get on.
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I think you're being a little unfair to Red Dot there. It seems to me like your clutch/DMF were probably already on their last legs (not surprising at 75K miles) and the remap merely exposed this.

I've had two 1.9 JTD remaps at Red Dot over the years (my previous 156 and my current GT) and I'd say their expertise and knowledge of Alfas under the tutelage of Augusto is second to none. Did you try contacting them after your remap to speak to them about your issues? Also, I'm pretty sure they still operate on the basis of removing your remap and giving a full refund if at all unhappy (they keep your original map on file).

For the record, the map you got is pretty well identical to mine and my DMF is fine 30K miles later. My standard 150bhp clutch started slipping 10K miles after the map and I subsequently had this uprated to the 170bhp clutch. 20K miles later and all is well. (My car was remapped at 40K miles).

Finally, I would say that from memory (the last of my remaps with them was 2 years ago) they are able to give you exactly the map you want, with pretty well any combination of torque and power delivery you want.

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You're right in everything you've said. I'm just not sure if they can maximise the power and hold back the torque? It would be good to know, as that's what these boys are after.

I am happy with map - it's a huge improvement! I don't want to go back to the original which was interesting putting out 165BHP on a standard engine. It's good to hear the 170 clutch is working well for you. Have you had the diff changed too?

Anyway, I don't want to detract from Damien's thread.

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Damien, Joe and Co.

Thank you for regularly updating this well written and descriptive thread. I?m not often on Alfa Owner, but it?s very refreshing to read such an articulate and informative article.

I have a stock GT Jtdm and I visited Reddot for the first time on an Alfa day last year for a remap. I?m not a fan of diesel power so I wanted a map to smooth out the lumpy torque delivery, and (impossibly!) make it feel more like a petrol! I also wanted the map to be sympathetic to the original clutch and drivetrain (75,000 miles).

My GT went on the rolling road, and achieved 198 BHP and 340 torque - I was over the moon at the results! But on the way home, the clutch was slipping and the flywheel occasionally juddered. It?s OK if I slowly feed in the power, avoiding peak torque.

That was my only experience of mapping. The system seemed quite basic ? Accelerate through the gears and the curve emerges on the screen. There didn?t seem to be any way of tweaking the curve to reduce the torque. I may be wrong, I know very little about how this works, but you may want to check this out before you visit.

It?s time I sorted out my drivetrain though. I?m sorry you?ve been guinea pigs, but it is very much appreciated! You guys know a lot more about this than I do. I?m not into modifying like yourselves, and I?m apprehensive about going down a bespoke clutch route myself. Isn't the DMF still the weak point?

Anyway, keep up the good work guys - Thanks again, and I look forward to reading how you get on.

Hi fidge, thanks for the positive remarks....

well I had the original clutch and flywheel on my AL map and just the same as yours the clutch began to slip almost straight away, within a thousand miles in fact...car went back and I had the clover 170 clutch fitted to the car as well as a new flywheel, had a quaife fitted whilst there and that for me is important as the factory diff is a weak point.

TBH the power is almost the last thing to deal with...handling needs attention before or along side the re-mapping.

re your map I would say that red dot are not to blame here, its a clutch with 75k on it, which is approaching the end of clutch life on a diesel car where so much torque is produced, added to which it was only designed to handle 150 BHP so an increase of 48 ponies is around a 33% increase in power....it was inevitable. if they are guilty of anything it would be taking your money without warning you of the potential negative impact...TBH I have spoken with Paulo and made a point of mentioning several things to me in a phone consultation...turbo and clutch being the main point made...I knew this anyway hence I will be replacing the turbo before the final re-map.

anyway back to your transmission question..at 198BHP a stock cloverleaf 170 clutch will be adequate to handle that HP but if mine were not replaced so recently I would be going for the stage two option of the JTD performance dual friction clutch. the DMF for me is a must because it soaks up vibration and torque which would otherwise be transmitted through the drive train, I have driven the SMF set up and it wasn't for me in a daily driver.


so the best balance IMHO is DMF and dual friction clutch, best of both worlds. that should be good for 250BHP+ and 450Nm of torque...more than enough for you and perhaps overkill...its funny with power though, once you have it you will want more so best to engineer the capacity for it at an earlier stage as it will cost practically the same.

in terms of mapping out torque, you can smooth out the delivery to avoid spikes which need to be smoothed out at around the 2700 mark (different on every car though) It's the spikes that kill the clutch not the power. its not so much but HOW it delivered that make the difference.

good luck with your next map, i would say give the car a full service prior and make sure the cam belt and water pump are in good condition and you will be fine
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In general terms, the thing to consider of course is that (from memory of my car, pre and post remap) the torque being generated by a standard 150bhp 1.9JTD is around 220ftlbs.

So remapping to 340ftlbs is more than a 50% increase.
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Hi fidge, thanks for the positive remarks....

well I had the original clutch and flywheel on my AL map and just the same as yours the clutch began to slip almost straight away, within a thousand miles in fact...car went back and I had the clover 170 clutch fitted to the car as well as a new flywheel, had a quaife fitted whilst there and that for me is important as the factory diff is a weak point.

TBH the power is almost the last thing to deal with...handling needs attention before or along side the re-mapping.

re your map I would say that red dot are not to blame here, its a clutch with 75k on it, which is approaching the end of clutch life on a diesel car where so much torque is produced, added to which it was only designed to handle 150 BHP so an increase of 48 ponies is around a 33% increase in power....it was inevitable. if they are guilty of anything it would be taking your money without warning you of the potential negative impact...TBH I have spoken with Paulo and made a point of mentioning several things to me in a phone consultation...turbo and clutch being the main point made...I knew this anyway hence I will be replacing the turbo before the final re-map.

anyway back to your transmission question..at 198BHP a stock cloverleaf 170 clutch will be adequate to handle that HP but if mine were not replaced so recently I would be going for the stage two option of the JTD performance dual friction clutch. the DMF for me is a must because it soaks up vibration and torque which would otherwise be transmitted through the drive train, I have driven the SMF set up and it wasn't for me in a daily driver.


so the best balance IMHO is DMF and dual friction clutch, best of both worlds. that should be good for 250BHP+ and 450Nm of torque...more than enough for you and perhaps overkill...its funny with power though, once you have it you will want more so best to engineer the capacity for it at an earlier stage as it will cost practically the same.

in terms of mapping out torque, you can smooth out the delivery to avoid spikes which need to be smoothed out at around the 2700 mark (different on every car though) It's the spikes that kill the clutch not the power. its not so much but HOW it delivered that make the difference.

good luck with your next map, i would say give the car a full service prior and make sure the cam belt and water pump are in good condition and you will be fine
Glad you are listening to my email and telephone lectures Joe..;-)

The 170 clutch has no real striking performance difference to the std 150 clutch. The only difference being the slight dimple surface on the 170 factory item, that was later made std on the 150 replacement item. When you fit the new hybrid turbo and add more boost, i envisage your clutch to last maybe 5k if you are lucky, no more. I have been there done that got the tea shirt. Just something to think about if you want to follow my path. And my dmf was fine when we took it out to fit the stage one clutch. And to be fair so was the clutch. It simply could not sustain the new elevated torque levels. I also think that the smf and GTA clutch arrangement that Autolusso sell definitely has its place on the market. Makes very fine economic sense for a tough clutch arrangement. But just not for GTB turbo power levels.

Also lets give credit where credit is due to Joel at JTD performance, for his commitment to clutch development for his GTB turbo'd 147. And finding a solution that can deal with 500nm of torque comfortably for 30,000km already. Not many specialists in europe going to these lengths to find performance solutions for this engine and transmission.

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Busy little night, began working on my GT's tail lights. Well i say my ,a quality set of used units, i bought last time i was at Autolusso. So cleaned them forensically, and have done a bit of wet sanding with 600 grit to get rid of the raised lettering. Done. Now using a bit of 800 grit to even the surface and create a nice key for the transparent candy apple red lense spray. Patience is a virtue for a good result. They should look great when done. And no more tinge of orange. Orange is so 80's lol.. Little before pic

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Busy little night, began working on my GT's tail lights. Well i say my ,a quality set of used units, i bought last time i was at Autolusso. So cleaned them forensically, and have done a bit of wet sanding with 600 grit to get rid of the raised lettering. Done. Now using a bit of 800 grit to even the surface and create a nice key for the transparent candy apple red lense spray. Patience is a virtue for a good result. They should look great when done. And no more tinge of orange. Orange is so 80's lol.. Little before pic

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If you had a decent coloured GT to start with (blue, for example) then the orange would look fantastic.
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If you had a decent coloured GT to start with (blue, for example) then the orange would look fantastic.
LOL..thanks Paddy.

I love my black GT, between you and i, its a nostalgia thing. My dad always had black Alfa's. I grew up around black Alfa's. I feel very blessed to have my own now. And its a tribute to my Dad who is sadly no longer with us..

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LOL..thanks Paddy.

I love my black GT, between you and i, its a nostalgia thing. My dad always had black Alfa's. I grew up around black Alfa's. I feel very blessed to have my own now. And its a tribute to my Dad who is sadly no longer with us..

Damien.
As a tribute you've done him proud mate.
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