There was absolutely no offence meant at all or aimed at any person so apologies, the point I was making and the point of me posting the original thread is that we all know that there is a fundamental flaw in the manufacturing process of the badges, as also in MG ones which. Also had, this is a possible 'solution' in as much they are fade resistant. By manufacturing in a different way. Personally I would love the originals, but we are fighting a losing battle with fade. Anyway please accept my apologies.