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#1 ·
hi guys anyone know how much a new clutch is for a 156 jtd 2.4 veloce on a 2001 , :rolleyes: i,am in the south essex area also if theres a company in essex that can do chipping and have a rolling road for fault diag,
 
#4 ·
He is correct, if it has a dual-mass flywheel you need a new one as well as the clutch.

(that isn't just an Alfa issue either, it goes for any car with a dual-mass flywheel)
 
#6 ·
888dee said:
I hope you are sitting down....

the parts alonefor this can cost upto £1000 if your car is fitted with a dual mass flywheel as this needs to be replaced along with the clutch, sorry can't recommend anyone round your way...

HOLY S**T!!!,:eek: thats bank bustingly expensive, hope mine lasts!
 
#7 ·
David C said:
He is correct, if it has a dual-mass flywheel you need a new one as well as the clutch.

(that isn't just an Alfa issue either, it goes for any car with a dual-mass flywheel)
Does anyone have actual facts? Not all JTDs have Dual Mass Flywheels as far as I know, is there any easy way of telling? And a breakdown of the parts costs for either type? Previous costs for JTD clutches in old threads is nowhere near £1000, labour is quoted at 7 - 7.5 hours.
 
#8 ·
The 10v 2.4JTD does have a dual-mass flywheel, which is about £400 for the part...
The 8v & 16v 1.9JTD does, about £550 for the part
It looks like the 20v 2.4JTD does not
 
#9 ·
ive just been quoted £450 inc vat for a clutch change on my '01 2.4 jtd from alfa in stockport. no dual mass flywheel. i was also quoted £800!! inc from my local (inverness) dealer, no mention of changing dual mass flywheel there either.
a friend of mine has a 02 focus with DMF, he recently had a clutch change, ford dont change the flywheels either.
 
#10 ·
Wait for the clutch judder to start then!

They can also have a habit of exploding when pushed too far... which takes out the gearbox and the crankshaft...
 
#12 · (Edited)
Its an expensive pain but if you don`t replace it, as David C says, the pain could be much worse.
Unless you have worn out the clutch friction material early by overloading the car (towing?) or increased torque (chipping for example) or poor driving habits (slipping the clutch), then the life of the DMF is estimated as the same as the rest of the clutch assembly.
You may be able to find a solid flywheel replacement but it would have to be an aftermarket conversion. You would lose the benefits of less noise and vibration and less drivetrain wear.
If you don`t replace it then it's a matter of 'when' rather than 'if' so best to get it over and done with.

Edit: actually, increasing the torque will probably wear the DMF out faster too.
 
#18 ·
alfatwice said:
:eek: iam going to have to look at this a grand is to much just for a clutch :rant: :rant: the cars only worth £4500 i aint paying that for it i will set fire to it first:rant:
i feel your pain:mad: i paid £2500 for an '01 2.4. if i have to pay that price for a clutch (along with everything else(wishbones timing belt etc etc)) it would pretty much write my car off.
im pretty much convinced that to own an alfa like mine you have to be completely loaded £££££, and a bit daft:lol:
 
#19 ·
having done literally hundreds of clutch changes in my years in the trade i have only ever changed maybe a handful of DMF's and they were changed due to a fault with the dmf and not the clutch. ford are changing DMF on most of there ecotec diesels atm as it causes judder etc. having bought my first alfa recently and new on here i did a bit of digging before i bought it. two alfa/fiat techs who i know have both categorically said you dont have to change the DMF unless you have stupid mileage on the vehicle just a note too my parts man who used to be an alfa guy has a jtd with over 140k on its back has had 2 clutches and no DMF on either occasion so i for one wont be paying stupid cash for a part that maybe could go in the future. done **** loads of research on this and all opinions differ but the guys who seem to be regular jtd buffs have all said its personal choice but the general concensus is dont change it unless its buggered.
just my two penneth..
 
#20 ·
I can't really give an opinion here as I have no experience of replacing a JTD clutch all I know is the full, genuine kit is pricey... I know Peugeot are now doing non-dmf replacements for their diesels,

Best of luck to you sorting it out with the minimum of open wallet surgery ;)
 
#21 ·
im not sure if this is moraly cool, but i may have just found a way of getting a clutch changed for ~£200. i supply the clutch (uprated) find a garage who have never done the job before, they have quoted me £200 labour, i asked for that in writing and they said no problem..could be problematic..could save me a wad of dough :rolleyes: ;)
 
#23 ·
i dont need it just yet but i know its on its way out:( i get shuddering when ive done a few miles and if you give the car some stick in 4th when you know the cars at max, power out put, it can start to slip so iam just doing some research on costs,the cars done 110 thou, miles
 
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