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hey great you came up with this, i have been looking for ages to get something similar.

you wouldnt by any chance have another set i could buy from you????

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hey great you came up with this, i have been looking for ages to get something similar.

you wouldnt by any chance have another set i could buy from you????

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Yep, no prob!

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any chances there will be something for the rear someday?
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any chances there will be something for the rear someday?
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The rear axle is easy done yourself! No need from special parts/equipment or tooling!
Just drill the upper hole in the shock absorber strut larger. Every 1mm diameter larger, 0.3 degree camber can be adjusted (when tilting the strut outwards, before fastening).
Why drilling a hole instead of making it a slot!?
When drilling a hole, both sides will be symmetrical and this is easy whenever you need to take the strut out for repair (silent bushes e.g.), you don't need to align your car anymore. It's reproducible.
If you will grind a slot, this will never be the same for left and right.
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Hello tooth, how much is the camber kit? I just had a new set of tyres on because the old ones were worn on the inside and I have the same suspension set up as you.

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Hello tooth, how much is the camber kit? I just had a new set of tyres on because the old ones were worn on the inside and I have the same suspension set up as you.

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Hello Bullettooth,

Hope you saw my post "awesome suspension upgrade for 10v JTD" - your bushes are on and are excellent - as someone who has actually used your bushes, I would strongly recommend them, particularly if you have any of the JTD 156 variants ( or the V6). Thanks very much for going to all that effort - nice job.
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Hello Bullettooth,

Hope you saw my post "awesome suspension upgrade for 10v JTD" - your bushes are on and are excellent - as someone who has actually used your bushes, I would strongly recommend them, particularly if you have any of the JTD 156 variants ( or the V6). Thanks very much for going to all that effort - nice job.
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Thanks for your positive feedback! I really like that. Hopefully it might persuade other people to also buy them!

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a simple fix if you've got too much camber on the front because of lowered than standard, is to set the front to toe in ,ok it will reduce turn in but it will counteract excessive camber on the unloaded wheel that drags across road
I agree with the rear though
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a simple fix if you've got too much camber on the front because of lowered than standard, is to set the front to toe in ,ok it will reduce turn in but it will counteract excessive camber on the unloaded wheel that drags across road
I agree with the rear though

If you solve excessive tyre wear like that, you could better inmediatly buy an Audi, that numb will your steering feeling will be.
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If you solve excessive tyre wear like that, you could better inmediatly buy an Audi, that numb will your steering feeling will be.
obviously its something you haven't thought about ....any alignment specialist would tell you that but hey what do I know .......
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For who is interested, I've got some sets left.

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Due the fact more Alfa enthusiasts all over the world find the camber correction kit as solution for excessive tyre wear on a lowered Alfa 147, 156 or GT, I've had my machinist make a couple of sets more.
Its always nice to see that a solution which Iíve made for my own lowered Alfa 156 would find a way over the world .
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Hi Bullettooth, I've looked at this thread a couple of times, while I can see the value in being able to adjust the camber is it possible to do it with the wheel still on the car?

There cannot be much room to swing a spanner with the wheel still on, or am I missing a trick?

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Hi Bullettooth, I've looked at this thread a couple of times, while I can see the value in being able to adjust the camber is it possible to do it with the wheel still on the car?

There cannot be much room to swing a spanner with the wheel still on, or am I missing a trick?

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Hi Pub,

The set is engineered to compensate the large amount of camber when lowering your Alfa, not to make the camber adjustable!
The fact that the camber isn’t adjustable is because modern cars often don’t have adjustable suspensions (only toe is adjustable). This is because of the fact the production tolerances are quite narrow and due the costs reduction. None adjustable is cheaper.
For the front suspensions of an Alfa 147, 156 and GT this is also the case. If there is a difference between the left and right, you can only adjust it by shifting the sub frame.
This is also after mounting the camber compensation set. The set compensates 1 degree camber, adjusting a potential difference (which was already in your car, before mounting the set) between left and right is done while getting the car aligned by shifting the sub frame.
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Apologies, I thought the idea is to use them as in this youtube clip adjusting the camber as desired, although, as shown in the clip, I can't see how this can be done 'on the car' so how would an alignment firm to set it up?

In all honesty I can't see how you are suggesting yours should be set, seems a bit random just fitting them expecting the camber to be correct without some tweaking once on the car.

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Apologies, I thought the idea is to use them as in this youtube clip adjusting the camber as desired, although, as shown in the clip, I can't see how this can be done 'on the car' so how would an alignment firm to set it up?

In all honesty I can't see how you are suggesting yours should be set, seems a bit random just fitting them expecting the camber to be correct without some tweaking once on the car.

All the best

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Hi Pub,

That video was uploaded by someone who bought a set., not by me. He is only showing the fact that the bushes make an adjusted camber possible by using a centric bushes.

The set is not 'random', while you mount it you yourself make sure that both bushes are 180 degree opposite from each other AND in line with the top mount. If you do this according the manual which is provided when buying a set, the camber will be adjusted approx. 1 degree and equally left and right. As I explained in previous post, a difference between left and right is equalized by shifting the sub frame.
If you have doubt’s in mounting them yourself, or you don’t know anyone who can do it for you, I also offer the service of supplying a complete mounted set.
Such a set consents of 2 new original upper wishbones, mounted on an top mount with a camber compensation set. (properly aligned off course).
You only have to mount the topmount/wishbone set and get the car aligned.
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installing them is pretty straight forward , the only tricky part is getting the old bushes out of the wishbone.
I used a long stud , some nuts a coupe of washers to push them out from the inside.
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Another Alfa driver from Belgium found me, via this form. The Alfa 156 fails the MOT because of wheel alignment issue's, which can be solved by the camber correction kit.
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