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Oil Sump gasket?

I have noticed oil around what I believe to be the oil sump? Please see pictures.

Do the sumps have gaskets and is it a common failure?

Any ideas where else the oil could be coming from?

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Is this part of the oil sump? Looks in one of the pictures (first one below) that a seal of somekind is broken?
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when my sump cracked, and obviously when i took it off, it had black sealant around it, i think you can buy gaskets for them, but sealant does the job well. is the oil dripping out at all ?
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Ive not seen any drips under the car, in some areas there are drips forming. I think its seeping rather dran driping out. Id imagine oil drips whilst I drive when the pressure increases?

Is picture four, still the sump? Not sure how far it goes?
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Is this a cracked gasket? looks like metal?
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Is the damaged part above part of the gear box?
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thats not damaged, just either half of the cover between engine and gear box.

The sump has no gasket BTW, its silicone sealed.

That to me looks like its coming from the dipstick seal, see Pic 1, they get hard and brittle over time instead of soft and supple, cheap part 3.50 or so.

HTH

BTW, also looking at pic 1, your exhaust bracket is missing, it should clamp the downpipe to the engine block to prevent movement and allow the flexi pipe to flex, rather than have the strain go onto the manifold.
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thats not damaged, just either half of the cover between engine and gear box.

The sump has no gasket BTW, its silicone sealed.

That to me looks like its coming from the dipstick seal, see Pic 1, they get hard and brittle over time instead of soft and supple, cheap part 3.50 or so.

HTH

BTW, also looking at pic 1, your exhaust bracket is missing, it should clamp the downpipe to the engine block to prevent movement and allow the flexi pipe to flex, rather than have the strain go onto the manifold.
+1 for the oil leak. Oil doesn't run upwards as seen in the pic#1.
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Thanks for the tip. How do I check if it the dip stick seal please?
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having just done the same job on my 147, I'd put my mortgage on it.

Easy to do, remove the exhaust heat shield, undo the 15mm bolt holding the dipstick tube to the cylinder head, pull the tube and dipstick out together, then examine the seal, chances are it is rock hard and not soft and supple. Simply remove and fit the new one, push the seal home in the hole, them bolt back up, refit heat shield and you are done.

More importantly I'd get that bracket done, the consequences of the manifold getting damaged are far more expensive than losing a little oil.

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I had a look this morning and there is oil leaking from the base of the dipstick tube, thank you so much for all your advise.

Is it best to get both parts from Alfa direct? Would an exhaust place keep these brakets in stock or are they a specialist alfa part?
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hi, Alfa only, be careful though as the parts disc I used stated three parts, two halves of the bracket plus one long bolt that I duly ordered, only to find the part had changed to the same number for both halves of the bracket, yet the other half still turned up at extra cost to myself. Grrrrrr,

Sometimes it pays to play dumb and get them to do all the work so they are wholly to blame if its wrong.

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Hmmm Oil Sump Alfa 147 1.6l TS (2005 model)

Hi all,

I have a question.

My oil sump is cracked and the leakage is quite severe. I want to know is it even possible to have it welded? another question on that note, is this metal aluminium? If so, would it be worth it to wled?

Next question - I have a someone who is willing to sell me their oil sump BUT it's from an Alfa 147 2l. now I'd like to know if the 1.6l and the 2l would have the same size oil sump?

Please assist, car has been standing for 2 weeks now
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Yes the sump can be welded (I punched a 20mm hole in my 164 sump and that was weld repaired) but it must be removed from the car and thoroughly cleaned.

However if the crack goes to the surface that mates to the engine block that will be quite a bit more difficult.
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Yes the sump can be welded (I punched a 20mm hole in my 164 sump and that was weld repaired) but it must be removed from the car and thoroughly cleaned.

However if the crack goes to the surface that mates to the engine block that will be quite a bit more difficult.
kandlbarrett: Thanks for the response, please advise if I can use a 2l oil sump for my 1.6l?

Thanks!
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