Originally Posted by dick dastardly
Malc, you must be having a quiet afternoon as well!
My GT label says 150bhp but it actually put out 170bhp (as did all the later engines), so you are right about the 'ish' bhp but not necessarily in the right direction!
As I said in my first post, Falken tyres may be good I have never tried. I was making the point that the discussion often centres on the price, not the qualities of the tyres. Equally, the tyre choice should never be based on the value of the car but should be about the characteristics of the car - 150bhp through the front wheels IMO rates the best tyres for all road conditions.
Glad we can agree to disagree otherwise this would be a boring discussion!
I do like a good debate, as for time I'm counting the minutes
That's not a relevant comment. It is possible to buy a 166 3.0 V6 with 250bhp (as my previous was) for less than £2k - probably even less now - but to fit a cheaper tyre because it's a cheaper car makes no sense at all.
At the end of the day, tyres are the only thing keeping you on the road. You pays your money, you takes your chances.
The tyre performance at the time of the cars conception will probably be exceeded today.
I know you are saying get the best possible for your car, that makes total sense but you also have to consider many other financial/human and mechanical factors.
Tyres, shockers, wishbones, TC, driver ability all these things keep you on the road. You at one end of the line the tyres at the other, one single failure on any part causes all to fail and yes that includes poor tyres.
The Falkens are not the best, neither are Goodyear F1's, maybe Pirelli or Michelin are or maybe they're not. They're by no means the worst IMO.
surely there is something to be said for the standard? Speed rating, load rating etc? they are EU standards that all tyres must meet?
I'm in the IAM, I wanted to be as aware and good driver as possible. Is everyone else doing that? I would imagine not but that does not make them any worse for it.
On the subject of tyres. On another none AR forum there is a discussion on a cetain tyre mentioned here that on several owners cars have split on the sidewall. Poor design, fault in manufacture? A forum so only the bad make headlines but my point is even with the best they aren't always.