The two stats to behave the same on a car
What's so hard to accept that they perform and behave totally differently when installed on a car?
One has discernible flow at over 8deg before the other????? It doesn't make any odds what you measure on a work bench if when installed in target application they are so different in operation.
I did actually say at one point on the road it's not a huge difference but there is a difference and didn't really have a huge complaint about the facet one but they do not perform the same.
However rather than accept they behave differently you keep disputing all our facts and say I am right look here is the evidence. Well we have evidence they do not work the same? So why is your evidence proof and ours a load of rubbish?
Make all the grumbly smilies you want. Maybe rather than trying to prove us wrong if you had said yes there is an obvious difference because there are multiple people observing the same difference in the way they operate and or open the flow but in your experience from cars you fit them to this difference does not really do much and maybe find an explanation for the difference. Then maybe we wouldn't have had to feel like you were saying we were wrong. We could have worked towards an actual answer.
The way you have handled it has meant you have made us both feel we are wrong in our observations. We are not, so why put noses our of joint to say we are. I even said if it's not the temp they both open at it must be something else in the way they operate (this allows us both to have a valid and not wrong opinion).
Rubber hoses don't take long to warm up by the way (just get one with one end capped and poor some warm water in (not hot, just warm) matter of seconds before you will feel it....
If you can feel the flow appear in the hose on one stat at 80 and feel the same pressure and flow appear in another at 88 they are not the same for whatever reason (even if the 80 and 88 are not accurate they are still diffrent and a temp sensor would be repeatably out but as two sensors agree on my car and someone else has a car that does the same it's safe to say this difference exists). I think you know from holding top hoses the swell and warm up you feel when a stat opens well they do that 8deg apart?????? I am not 1 person seeing this it's seen by more than one person (and the behaviour is exactly the same, not similar, identical).
If you want to keep on with the I'm correct you guys are wrong thing then we can just agree to disagree and leave it there. If you would like to accept that we are seeing a significant difference then maybe we can actually get some useful findings here.