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Considering a 147

Hi - I've transferred theis post to here - hope you can help:

"Hi Everybody - newbie here and currently a Focus owner.

I have been a long-time admirer of A lpha Romeo and a few years ago rented a diesel 147 in Italy (interesting driving there....!)

It was really lovely to drive, and I have hankered after one since then (would go for the Giulietta but finances prohibit )

I need some owners views on this car (must be diesel) - typical family use - irregular commutes, but used around city frequently, weeknds visiing distant friends and family, and occasional summer camping trips (need a detachable towbar for a small trailer).

My questions are:
What's the reliability like on post-2006 models?
Typical servicing/spares costs?
Fuel consumption?
What faults I should look out for when buying?

I wouldn't mind betting all this is contained somewhere in this forum, but I couldn't find it, so a link will be fine if you have one.

Many thanks
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First thing - Alfa not A l p h a

I don't have a diesel so can't help with that, but a coupla pointers are check for cambelt change past and listen for knocks / squeaks from suspension on the test drive

Alfa's are no less reliable than any other car really...
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I have a JTD, take it for a test drive make sure it runs smoothly and the turbo boost kicks in properly dead/dying MAF's and EGR's can cause many problems, just basically give it a little run and make sure everything works as it should no warning lights etc and as already mentioned and creaks/knocks/groans from the suspension are the main things to listen for the rest of it is fairly sound
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It's a good time of year to 'test drive' a potential purchase..............very cold, damp weather are when cars are most likely to display any problems, from electrical through to suspension bushes etc..........and on the drive the engine will warm up nicely so you can check for any normal temperature running issues..........bonus

Good luck with whatever you end up wont be disappointed with any 147
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Perfectly happy with mine and I've had it for 3 years now. Main things to consider are... As previously stated, the Service history is important, especially that the cambelt and water pump have been changed preferably, every 4 years or 60k (despite alfa schedule being 5 years and 72k). Also good to check the clutch isn't really heavy (it should be a bit heavy and squeak) but a really heavy clutch can cause mechanism failure (this happened to mine). Mpg is generally around early 40's. The diesel engine is quite a strong unit and should serve you well if looked after properly. Vs. A Ford, my experience is that if anything does need doing, (even a routine service) it will probably cost you more on an Alfa than a Ford, but don't let that put you off as you can always shop around and there are a lot of decent independent Alfa specialists out there who will help you keep costs under control and offer sound advice. Planning to keep mine for another 2 years now, so it will be the longest I have ever owned a car for - that's how much I like mine!
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I have the JTD M-Jet.

I get about 45mpg...which is pretty good going.

Typical services costs - I can't really answer that as have been getting a pretty decent discount from my Alfa specialist! Parts CAN be pricy, however, there are websites you can source used parts.

I have had no reliability issues whatsoever with mine.

I can't stress enough that FSH is VERY important when buying an Alfa.

As others have said, check when the cambelt was done and also if the waterpump was done, as there was an issue these overheating if not being changed before the 60,000 mile mark on the JTD engines. (The book will say 72,000, though.) The advice now is to change the cambelt every 3 years of every 30,000 miles - whatever comes first.

Check for any possible suspension issues - knocks rattles and squeaks.

Make sure all is well with the turbo - I unfortunately had to shell out a fair bit not long after purchasing.

Good luck...hope this was helpful!

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Thank you all - nice to get info from the sharp end, and good to know that Alfa's don't suffer from iffy reliability any more (my brother had a GTV years ago - fab car but spent quite a bit of time in the garage....)

Good info re: water pump/cam belt and suspension.

Will let you know how I get on

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I purchased a new 1.9jtdm 150 back in Oct 06. My first Alfa.
I had it for 4.5 years and had a couple of problems.

Suspension bushes/arms were changed under warranty just before it was 3. I have to drive over a number of speed bumps (10 - 14 depending on my route) on my road every day . i suspect this increased the wear on the bushes.

Had the heavy clutch problem and the dealer changed the clutch under warranty (2.5yrs old) but it didn't fix the problem. They told me it was ok so i just put up with it.
I have read on here that it was probably the bearings on the clutch lever shaft through the gear box casing (i think)

The worst problems were just out of warranty. First my EGR valve seized (300 ish - main dealer) then 1 month later it needed a new inlet manifold (900 i think - main dealer).
I believe the EGR valve is the same as on vauxhalls and they have the same problems with theirs too.
I suspect the inlet manifold problem was due to muck and soot being disturbed when the EGR valve was replaced as the egr is bolted directly to it.
Unfortunately i hadn't found AO at that time so didn't know what to do or who to speak too.
I now know of a recommended independent Alfa specialist in my area so will use them when out of warranty.

I think my EGR & manifold problems were due to me doing mainly short journeys - 3 miles each way to work & back, all in stop start traffic. The worst type of journey for a diesel i have now found out.

The Giulietta D now has a regen sequence to get rid of all the muck if it needs it.

My consumption was about 32-34 on my short work journey, but I could get about 42-45 on a long run.

Even though i had these problems i still loved the car and don't regret buying it for one minute.
The engine had good torque and gave a good growl on hard acceleration.
It handled good round the bends too. It was also good to look at.

The few problems didn't put me off the brand either as i traded in for a Giulietta.

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