is it just me or has most people got a stiff gear knob in there 147's? heard its a common thing but never tested a brand new 147 so wouldnt know what they are supposed to be like! and if so anyone know how to cure? cheers.
I had the same problem.
There is a bolt on top of the gearbox that locates the gear linkage, this seizes up. (It acts as a pivot)
This needs to be removed, cleaned, re-greased and refitted.
Takes about 30-45 minutes.
Hope this helps.
I've got the same problem, but I went to the Alfa garage in Cardiff, Wales and the mechanic told me to buy two plastic bushes that go top and bottom of the selector rod ( the one that was previously mentioned). Apparently it's a 1 1/2 hour job and there are two 17mm pinch bolts( spanner size) that you have to take out so you can get to the bushes. The bushes only cost 75 pence each ( I'll post the part number when I remeber to get it out of my car!!!). Once the problem with the lever is there it will only get worse and the bush is the biggest selling item for the 147 that Alfa do (as quoted from the mechanic!!!)
Did the job today - if you look at the selector housing thats under the bonnet and wiggle the gear lever you'll notice the rod that moves when the lever is moved left to right. On the end of the lever is a cable ball joint - squeeze in the clip ( mine was a white bit) and prise the joint apart- carefully. You'll be able to see it more clearly now even if it is a ***** to get to. you can see that there is a 17mm nut undo this ( 18 inches of extension, the removal of the air filter cover and disconnection of the hose from the cover will help you achieve this. )
At this point if the arm is seized you will have to loosen the cable bracket to get a better grip so you can twist the arm out. The bracket is held on by three 13mm bolts - two you can get to from above by the use of extensions and a universal joint in the middle, the one under the connected cable can be got at with an open ended and a bit of spanner rash. after the arm is out remove the bushes - the lip will probably break off so you can't pull them out with a pair of pliers!!! if this does happen get a socket that will fit in the hole and drift them through to the other side.
the new bushes can only go in one way round, but they may need a bit of a chamfer on the font edge to assist them in to pushing into the hole.
The rest is just a reversal of the removal. Hope this helps a little more - as for the part numbers he didn't write them on the packet, but any alfa garage will know what you are going on about.
Had this problem after my 147 was standing for 4 months during the summer. Ordered and fitted 2 plastic bushes, greased with silicon grease. Parts cost around £1.60. The Aluminium plate they fit into was £16 but was not needed as the bushes are easy to remove and did not argue with a 1/2" extension from my socket set.
Worst part of the job was removing the cable retaining clips.
Job took about an hour.
had thesame problem but found it fixed by dealer when they did a massive job on my 147(new water pump, changed all belts, variator, service etc). guess they jus greased/lubed it or sumthin cuz i wasnt invoiced for it
The gearstick is stiff when moving across from 1-2 to 3-4 to 5. OK when actually in gear but the left to right movement across the gate is stiff. Most gearboxes are sprung towards the centre. (neutral).
^^^when mine was stiff gear wuldnt go to normal neutral position u had to push it to i.e. its like neutral ran across from gears 1 to 5 so it was a ***** to change from 2 to 3 or from 5 down to 4.
its like between gear 1 and 2 theres neutral, between 2 and 4 (normal neutral position dat lever is supposed to return to by itself), theres neutral and between 5 and reverse theres neutral too. so basically gear nob can stay in all those positions i.e. neutral ran across in between all gears
Yes that exactly the problem. The plastic bushes go tight for some reason. I strpped and cleaned everything up and had to skim one of them to get it to fit back properly, so i bought 2 new ones instead. At 65p each, it probably the cheapest part on the car.
I have the same(ish) problem, my gearstick seems to have a huge throw over to 1st and 2nd gear and doesn't center itself, occasionally i'll be driving along minding my own business and all of a sudden I lose 3rd and 4th for about a minute, then it sorts itself out gradually. I'm having it in for a service this month so might get this looked at and see what they say it is. Probably the bushes though, funny how a bush can make your knob stiff isn't it?
careful bout dat service if its from main dealer they might tell u bull!!!! dat u need parts dat u dont even need. initially desira told me the job wuld cost around £200 or so explaining all dis crap to me i wasnt even listening and i got to the car to pick it up found the gear wasnt stiff anymore dunno wat they did to it
I'll remember that the next time the car is jacked up with the passenger door removed, the wheel arch liner removed, the passenger seat, sill covers, carpet and other trim and a running hose trying to find a water leak (not air con related).
Still makes my heart pound now but not in the same way !!!
Car wasn't designed to work.
btw, i do get abit of a crunching sound sometimes in reverse gear. is this a similar 'bush' problem? if reverse action is slow, its ok. but when the action is quick and abrupt, that crunching sound surfaces. its also abit similar to the sound when u forget to step the clutch and u shift gears. but in my case, i clearly step the clutch. as i mentioned, doesnt happen often but just keen to know. any ideas?
i think u'll find the crunchy noise wit a lot of cars cuz i hear dat quite a lot when ppl rush to reverse gear xpecially when car is like still moving foward a lil and u quickly select reverse it will almost definitely crunch
read somewhere the facelifted 147 gearboxes have been improved, similar to the ones on the GT, slick & smooth. any knows? imo, i feel the action is fine & i can rush the gears, just gota be abit careful on reverse. to be honest, i do like the throws despite it being abit long.
I've just bought a five year old 147 with exactly this gear shift problem - the dealer is servicing it this week so I'll see if I can 'suggest' they replace the bushes while they're doing it.
Incidentally, the crunching going into reverse also happened the second time I tried to select it - but the user handbook states that you shouldn't try to put the 147 into reverse within 3 seconds of dipping the clutch after forward motion .. as this will cause grinding of the gears. Naturally, I had tried to rush it.
So it's another quirky design feature ... of sorts.
I've just jumped in my bella after a 2-week break and noticed the same problem with the stiff neutral plane in the gear stick. Seems to be worse on the 1st and 2nd side. Arnold Clarks in Perth explained it would be the Gear Box turret starting to seize. It’s a cheap part with a pivot feature, which apparently starts to go sticky when it wears (very common). Its about 20 quid but will take a main dealer a couple of hours labour to fit . It looks a pretty easy DIY job though.
As a quick fix, I sprayed the thing with WD40 while waggling the stick back and forward and it now seems to have freed itself.
How long it will last, I don't know!!
On the above reverse crunch point, I have the same issue. It is a trait of the gearbox and some cars are worse than others. To speed up your changes, try putting it into 4th before reverse and you should not get the crunch. Putting it into 4th seems to slow the box down enough.