i have a problem. my bella (147 selespeed '02 for those who don't know) is drinking more and more oil. she's almost up to 1 liter / 2000km now. the dealer has 'been looking into it' for about 6 months now, but they still don't have a solution for this. i know they have this problem with other customer's cars now, and especially the 2.0 version. so my question is, has anyone gotten this fixed in any way? i'm thinking about selling the car maybe this year, but i don't want to sell it to anyone as long as it's got this serious problem.
Usual first question! What grade oil did they use for your 147s service?
If they used the thin 5W30 Full Synthetic that is recommended for extreme cold climates, that could be the problem.
Before you start thinking about selling, a switch to 10W60 Full Synthetic could be worth trying.
Most 2.0lt suffer from high oil consumption Dude. Its not that big deal. But I dont know if your lt/Km is the 2.0 normal though, the 2.0lt owners will enlighten us on this
hehehe. hi dude!
i think it's a big deal. my last car, the fiat barchetta, didn't use a drop of oil btwn 10'000km changes. never, and i drove it 55'000km's. i've now driven my 147 57'000km and it's just using more and more oil. if that's not a problem, then what is? if alfa think this is normal the least they could do is ship me a 1-litre bottle of oil every 4 weeks...
forgot to mention, i used other oils before, but last 10'000km i've only been using 10w60 castrol. no difference, it still uses more and more oil....
If I remember correctly, AR allows maximum consumption of 1 liter for every 5,000km. But Dude's case seems too high regardless.
Dude, what or where exactly did the dealer 'look into' during the past 6 months? They haven't found any clue?
the dealer haven't looked at my car specifically, the reason for this is i think they've had my car more than enough with all the other problems i've had with it (bushes, vdc, stereo, seatbelt warnings, airbag warning, engine ctrl warnings, you name it). but they have another customer with the exact same problem. i spoke to them and they've among other things sent oil from his car to the oil maker's lab to have it analyzed and try to find out what's wrong. the bottom line is they can't seem to solve this, and that's a big problem for me now that i'm going to sell the car. because if i sell it to someone and they aren't pleased with it, that could mean even more problems for me, even if it's still under warranty.....
btw, forgot to say: the manual says 1Litre/1000km is normal. that of course, is ver untrue. it's just something their lawyer's put into there to help avoid getting sued if any problems arise, i'm sure... NO oil consumption would be normal on most new cars, as far as i've managed to find out...
It is true that the "1L/1000km" statement in the manual is a bit of a legal get out clause, but it is also true that most TS engines tend to use a bit of oil.
Do you know what grade of oil was in your engine before you started topping up with Castrol 10W60.
One thing to mention to your dealer as your car is still under warrenty is "valve stem oil seals".
(I also use Castrol RS 10W60 by the way, also called Castrol TWS in come locations)
the reason for this is i think they've had my car more than enough with all the other problems i've had with it (bushes, vdc, stereo, seatbelt warnings, airbag warning, engine ctrl warnings, you name it).
Tell me about it ..
Originally Posted by 147dude
they've among other things sent oil from his car to the oil maker's lab to have it analyzed and try to find out what's wrong.
Man i m impressed. If I suggest that to my dealer he ll kick me out of the garage Analyze the oil !! Respect for your dealer dude!
i spoke to them and they've among other things sent oil from his car to the oil maker's lab to have it analyzed and try to find out what's wrong.
That's the first I've heard.
Have they thought about looking for leakage and seals condition? Like Hans said, if the consumption increases, that's worrying. Sometimes, the undertray can hide stains and leakage, so do check with care.
hehehe... nah - i dunno. if they don't find out soon i'm going to make them buy the car back from me. i still have the original list of faults it came with and think i have a strong case, consumer's rights are pretty strong heere in norway, fortunately...
next car - i don't know. either a diesel powered alfa og a petrol version of bmw 3-series coupé. been looking a bit at a used 323Ci that looks quite nice. the thought of rear-wheel drive is nice, and i can't say i'm very convinced of alfa's product quality after owning this 147 for 2 years now, unfortunately...