Originally Posted by jozza
Thankyou very much for your warm welcome guys.
Most of you guys have talked about the 147 gta as being a very spirited,"soulful" car and i totally agree with you that it is,even though i spent only a little time behind the wheel of one and i'd be lying to you if i said i wasnt totally leaning in the direction of the GTA at this point in time.If driving the r32 doesnt sway my bias at all,i'll be joining the ranks of most of you guys im sure.And believe me having to wait out for a car that you just dont know much about is hard enough especially when you know you could be getting a good deal on a metallic silver GTA fully optioned with just enough test drive km's on it to squeeze a better bargain from the stealer..i mean dealer
So unfortunately for me,patience is the key and until then i hope to hear from more of you 147 gta owners who may help put the car in better perspective for me.
in the BBC Top Gear review programme, the 147 GTA "annihilated" the R32 and FOCUS RS in the 0 - 100KMH run. Plus, dun forget tat the GTA is relying on only 2 wheels to get the power down on the tarmac, while the R32 has the benefit of a AWD system and the RS has a differential... so many may say: wat is power without control?? well, the proof is in the pudding, the 147GTA "ANNIHILATED" the R32 and the FOCUS RS... - who are supposed to have better control over the GTA.
From wher i come from, VW cars are OVERPRICED and therefore over-rated by most buyers IMO... No doubt its fit & finish are top rate "German quality" - to me, the premium price of a VW still doesnt justify it.
im not sure if the R32 will be cheaper than the 147GTA down under but i believe it is the case in UK...
Regardless, i have made the "insensible" jump from a 147 selespeed to the 147GTA and have never regretted it... except of cos for the much higher costs of RUNNING it!
The so called "torque steer problem" is not an issue wit me cos one learns to manage & control it - by holding back in 1st gear, getting the wheels to bite then Flooring it after that. Wat u see on review programmes of the 147GTA abt torque steer are mostly self induced by the reviewer on track...
even without redlining from 1st to 3rd gear - 190KMH is easily achieved... so go figure. Power is always on tap and handling is superb IMO. Only thing tat really needs 1st priority MODDING is: LOWER & STIFFER SUSPENSION and BETTER BRAKES! Other than tat, the 147GTA is really as they say: a day to day car tat is always ready for the track!
In terms of exterior looks... no need to say much whos the winner...
the 147 GTA is really a good and subtle improvement over the standard 147...
In terms of interior looks and feel, i'd take the 147GTA hands down anytime...if u can trust the italians with fashion designer labels, no doubt abt the unique leather racing seats and panelling...
the R32's interior looks boring to me and the seats are more like a overinflated living room couch.. - only thing i prefer in the R32 is the neat Trip computer display...and the killer standard 18 inchers on the outside!
dun forget, with the NEW facelifted VW Golf now released.... i wldnt wan to be saying "D'OH!" if they released a high performance version of the NEW GOLF! (Already seen pics of the new Golf GTI... mean looking bugger)...
good test wld be to have the 2 cars side by side... 100% most passersby will get their eyes caught on the 147GTA FIRST before they even notice the R32... and tat is in part wat u pay for when u go for an Alfa - individuality and personality of owning such a hyper hatch!
anyways, buying a Alfa - old or new, is always an affair of the heart.... so listen to it!
Disclaimer: the above comments are simply my opinions based on what i have experienced..nothing more, nothing less.