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Hello and have I bought a lemon?

I've not driven for around ten years and just purchased a 147 Selespeed, very exciting, very pleased with it - BUT!

Checked the VOSA database for MOT history (after purchase as I wasn't aware of its existence until this evening) and under the MOT Failure it states:

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Offside floor to sill Body or chassis has excessive corrosion, seriously affecting its strength within 30cm of the body mountings (6.1.3)

The garage mentioned and fixed all of the other items (pads, lights, tyres) but did not mention this and as far as I know the work wasn't done so I'm suspecting dodgy test garage.

Can anyone advise courses of action? I'm considering getting my local Alfa specialist to do a thorough check and if the above hasn't been remedied contacting VOSA and trying to get my money back - unless of course it's a cheap bit of welding, but I don't believe that is.

Help please! I was so pleased with my purchase and now my heart is braking!
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Have it checked, if it's not been done take it to the place that issued the MOT and threaten to report them to VOSA unless they fix it properly.

Problems with your MOT test or certificate : Directgov - Motoring

Technically speaking, you should probably just report them. But that won't fix your problem...
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i assume the work has been done to give you new mot and is it same station that refused mot ?
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Yeah, think I'm going to get it into my local Alfa specialist soonest.

If this hasn't been fixed is it an expensive job? I suppose you can't tell just from that MOT fail.
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i assume the work has been done to give you new mot and is it same station that refused mot ?
Yes, so one would think they were above board, however Lights, tyres and pads were done - no mention of corrosion from the car trader tho. Unfortunately my mechanical knowledge is limited.
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Yeah, think I'm going to get it into my local Alfa specialist soonest.

If this hasn't been fixed is it an expensive job? I suppose you can't tell just from that MOT fail.
Cost me just over £100 to get my rusty bits welded up at the last mot. Think that included the test as well...although I prepared the car in advance.
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Cost me just over £100 to get my rusty bits welded up at the last mot. Think that included the test as well...although I prepared the car in advance.
I could swallow that (or hold the trader to ransom...)

Right - it's getting looked at by my local specialist asap. Cheers guys! Let's hope all is well and I enjoy the car as much as I did an hour ago before I found this out.
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Stories I've heard from MOT testers seem to infer that if they're going to be 'relaxed' about their pass/fail criteria, it's going to be for someone who's keeping a car - not for one that's getting a ticket on it for re-sale.

Last thing they want is to be in this situation (new buyer querying their pass), and have the ministry inspector coming to visit.

If I was a betting man, my money would be on the work's been done
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If I was a betting man, my money would be on the work's been done
Let's hope so! Hopefully the trader just forgot to mention it. I want an interim service anyway as I'm going to be making a long journey in a couple of weeks, so may as well get it checked then.
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if you bought car from a trader and mot is dodgy ,you can screw the f..cker to the floor ,ill bring the screw driver ,u supplies the screws
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Let's hope so! Hopefully the trader just forgot to mention it. I want an interim service anyway as I'm going to be making a long journey in a couple of weeks, so may as well get it checked then.
I think traders are genetically unable to utter the 'r' word...!
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I've not driven for around ten years and just purchased a 147 Selespeed, very exciting, very pleased with it - BUT!

Checked the VOSA database for MOT history (after purchase as I wasn't aware of its existence until this evening) and under the MOT Failure it states:

Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate
Offside floor to sill Body or chassis has excessive corrosion, seriously affecting its strength within 30cm of the body mountings (6.1.3)

The garage mentioned and fixed all of the other items (pads, lights, tyres) but did not mention this and as far as I know the work wasn't done so I'm suspecting dodgy test garage.

Can anyone advise courses of action? I'm considering getting my local Alfa specialist to do a thorough check and if the above hasn't been remedied contacting VOSA and trying to get my money back - unless of course it's a cheap bit of welding, but I don't believe that is.

Help please! I was so pleased with my purchase and now my heart is braking!
oh dear....you sould have bought a "jap car"
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if you bought car from a trader and mot is dodgy ,you can screw the f..cker to the floor ,ill bring the screw driver ,u supplies the screws
Amen to that! Hopefully I'm just being paranoid and all is well in Alfa land.

I'll let you guys know how I get on
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Stuff like this is fairly easy to spot if you get under with a torch. Plates and fresh underseal will be obvious, as will holes where the tester's hammer has gone through the metal.

People selling cars often don't mention welding because it makes people think cars are lemons.
 
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Stuff like this is fairly easy to spot if you get under with a torch. Plates and fresh underseal will be obvious, as will holes where the tester's hammer has gone through the metal.

People selling cars often don't mention welding because it makes people think cars are lemons.
Just had a proper look underneath and there is what looks to be a fresh area of underseal. I shall sleep better tonight, bit still going to get it serviced anyway! Thanks for that Keithyboy.

I think I'm gonna like it here.
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you have bought a lemon.
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you have bought a lemon.
Yeah, should've got that Celica...
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you have bought a lemon.
Not nessecelery.

If the car has been repaired properly then it will be fine.

I did say properly though, the rust needs cutting away back to good metal, and a plate seam welded in.

Chances are they just welded a plate over the rusty bit then painted it with underseal. The rust will come back if this is the case, normally around the edges of the plate as it spreads from where it has been left.


It should be obvious if they have done that though, as it normally stands slightly proud.


I would still prefer that to a car full of holes though.

You will never be cool driving a Vauxhall.
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under sale of goods act havent you got 7 days to take it back
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Rusty floors are becoming quite common on older 147 and 156, but it's rarely very serious; don't be alarmed by the MOT wording. i would say the trader "forgot" to mention it in case the word "rust" scared you off.
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