Has anyone here mounted a Ragazzon exhaust on their 147 or even 156? I am desperately trying to figure out what it sounds like, as I don't want an exhaust that makes too much noise when I'm crusing at 90-120 km/h, I jsut want mroe growl when I push the pedal to the metal and exceed the 4000rpms.... Any tips?
Hmmm... Thanks for the advice Nareman! I'm skeptical to Remus, have a thing for Italian tuning parts (apart from the Eibach spring then, ahem).... Maybe Supersprint, but I've heard the sound of supersprint is not so good, unless you do both the boxes? Also, Supersprint doesn' have anything ready for the 147 yet, at least nothing on their website... hmmmm....
Has anyone mounted other exhausts on 156 or 147? How about the ones from Autodelta? They are quite cheap, 390£ for centre box and back box with 128x80mm outlet.... Does anyone have a Supersprint on their 156?
Remus might be ok, but they seem overpriced compared to the other ones, and I've heard some that I didn't like too...
Thanks for the Raggazzon remark... :-(
I have a ragazzon mounted and in the beginning it sounded quite ordinary, but now it sounds excellent, You get the growl you are looking for; for sure and it is not a disturbong sound at higher speeds, really. Once the engine is warm, it gives you this lovely deep sound. My brother was really impressed by the sound and he has ****loads of experience with exhausts. One advice, mount the stainless steel version [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . I am really satisfied about it. I had a sebring underneath my crx delsol vti and it sounded crap. Ragazzon is the beautiful stylish growl! It's Italian and I fancy Italian parts too!!! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
Thanks Nerofuoco... I don't know which way to turn to now, but if you have the one I'm considering I think I'll liten to your advice. You wouldn't happen to have anyrecordings of it or plans for recording it? Is it the backbox stainless with 128x80mm you have?
I'm new to this exhaust thing - call it ignorance if u will - but what is the purpose of getting these designer exhausts? just the sound i assume? also what is replaced on your car> is it just the muffler box thingy or like the whole thing including the pipe and outlet bit? any pros and cons??Thanks for your help!
In my case I will switch the back box and outlet first yes. You can also switch the center box. Well, firstly, you can buy a stainless steel one (which I don't think the original one is). Primarily sound, also looks (the outlet that is). Secondly, isn't the standard back box gigantically big? Never seen anything like it before. Probablay weighs a ton too... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
No, not necessarily. But Novitec is German, so they would need id for Germany. If you buy somethings that produced in Germany and doesn't have TUV certification, that should matter more. I don't think all other countries care too much aout it. I've bough great quality stuff from Germany without certification... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
I have a supersprint back and centre box on my 1.8 156. It sounds fantastic between 3 and 4 thousand revs. After that there is a different sound to the standard system but not as throaty as the 3to4 rev range. I wouldn't say the sound overall is too intrusive. Sounds fab in tunnels. Mine is married with a Green air filter - which also made a slight difference in sound and performance.
The fitting is not as good as standard box. Looks like its hanging off the bottom from side on angle.
yep,will let ya know.Easter a very busy time for me!!
nope,these exhausts aren't just for noise,(but thats a nice by product!)
check out the misc tuning tips in the main menu,its very good and is clearer than me but........Getting air in and out more effectively increases power,thats why the first mods most do is fit induction kits and performance exhausts.Also,new cars come with compromises,mainly to do with emmission laws.These compromises are built into the cars management system,called the ECU.(compromies meaning a play off between mpg and power for example).All a chip does is optimise the ECU for performance,rather than emmissions and running costs!
Thanks for the info! so having just the exhaust without and ECU chip should also enhance performance then, yes? also i'd assume putting on a new exhaust would render my warranty useless?
Yesterday i was at the Geneva motor show and i saw all the exhausts u guys have mentioned, ie. raggazon, supersprint, remus etc...i also saw the 156 GTA aswell as this new alfa concept car...looked pretty neat...
lol! yep,forget your warranty,they get very arsey unless you go with someone like Autodelta who have a relationship with Alfa UK.And yep,a decent exhaust will increase performance by a about 300hp if the ads are to be believed!!
(its why i haven't had mine done yet,I've waited for the first 12k service to make sure nothing serious was wrong-that and I'm bloody busy but it will happen soon!)
Autodelta told me that the rest of the car would still be covered by Alfa: eg the unmodded bits, Autodelta would be responsible for the modded bits.Not sure how that would work if put to the test though! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
the way i see it is if you get a cowboy to stick any old exhaust on then take it into a dealer you don't know for warranty work then you is kybered............take it to Autodelta then ask them to carry out the warranty work you should be ok............ [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]
At the end of the day... If you change the exhaust, and your gear box went! how could this be linked? If you changed the exhaust and the ECU failed!!! - This would still be covered.
You see where I am going?
You could always get round it, but its never ideal to mess around with a warranty covered car. (Not what you would expect someone to say who runs a Aftermarket Alfa Romeo Shop)
I will never lie to you, all I would suggest is a compromise, Dont mess around with things that they could say stressed the car components.
With this in mind, you should be OK, each dealer would probably treat you differently anyhow.
Popped into the dealer I got my car from today, and amongst other things, I enquired as to how getting work done at Autodelta would affect the warranty.
The answer was not at all! In fact, the guy I was speaking to showed me a cheque made out to Autodelta which was on his desk, which belonged to somebody who is getting about 5 grands worth of work done on their new Alfa bought through the dealership.
Hmm, quite fancy that Brembo brake kit and new suspension...