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147 reflector HID kit - question

Got a 147 pre-facelift . I've been trying out different bulbs, currently using Osram Silverstars. Great light,but i'm after the xenon effect. I've read about the H7R and H7C and also something about CANBUS headlights on 147 aka will throw an error with HID bulbs. The canbus thing, true or false? If true, how to fix it?
Anyways, my slight worry since i'll be ordering from eBay is fitment. I saw on a thread here that H7R bulbs sometimes don't clear the metal plate on the reflector on a 156, i'm interested how it is with the 147. Perhaps standard H7 HID bulbs fit on the 147? Any input is appreciated.

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No canbus errors for the headlights - you ought to be able to spot a blown headlight pretty easily, so you don't get a dash warning for these ones.. Hence no errors when fitting a HID kit.

Not heard of problems with fitment of the H7R's myself, and mine fit no problems in my GT.

H7R bulbs are designed for reflector housings (hence the R) - they have a metal shield attached to the bulb directly to severely reduce the amount of light that's scattered upwards that might otherwise cause dazzle to oncoming drivers... Other's run standard H7's and claim to not have any issues, but I chose H7R's just to be sure.

I would highly recommend getting a relay/harness at the same time to power the HID's directly from the battery rather than through the OEM loom... There are some reports of funny behavior after retrofitting HID's to the OEM fittings as they can draw a lot more current on start-up.

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No canbus errors for the headlights - you ought to be able to spot a blown headlight pretty easily, so you don't get a dash warning for these ones.. Hence no errors when fitting a HID kit.

Not heard of problems with fitment of the H7R's myself, and mine fit no problems in my GT.

H7R bulbs are designed for reflector housings (hence the R) - they have a metal shield attached to the bulb directly to severely reduce the amount of light that's scattered upwards that might otherwise cause dazzle to oncoming drivers... Other's run standard H7's and claim to not have any issues, but I chose H7R's just to be sure.

I would highly recommend getting a relay/harness at the same time to power the HID's directly from the battery rather than through the OEM loom... There are some reports of funny behavior after retrofitting HID's to the OEM fittings as they can draw a lot more current on start-up.
Glad to hear no canbus error-free kit is needed,given the increase in price. Browsing through eBay, I might try the H7 standard bulb and get it properly alligned. How's the light from the H7R's as i've read that while it dazzles oncoming traffic less, it produces less light as well?
Are you running 35W or 55W? So far ,i'm leaning for 35W simply because 55W might be just too much for oncoming traffic, but what's your position regarding it?
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Light level is OK.. Certainly doesn't blow the original halogen's out of the water mind... Route cause is the pants reflector design!

I've got a set of 35w lights, couldn't comment on the difference in light output verses the 55w however...

I do have another set of headlights, a set of Mini H1 Morimoto projectors, new ballasts etc. in the garage.. I'll get round to stripping them down and fitting a proper set of projectors soon.. Should be a big upgrade!
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Light level is OK.. Certainly doesn't blow the original halogen's out of the water mind... Route cause is the pants reflector design!

I've got a set of 35w lights, couldn't comment on the difference in light output verses the 55w however...

I do have another set of headlights, a set of Mini H1 Morimoto projectors, new ballasts etc. in the garage.. I'll get round to stripping them down and fitting a proper set of projectors soon.. Should be a big upgrade!
Proper HID projectors are indeed the best way to go about it. As it stands, i'm trying to go cheap ,hence the HID in reflector idea. Would it be awfully too much to ask for some pictures of your car with the HID kit,perhaps lit over a darker road and how they look on the car?
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Proper HID projectors are indeed the best way to go about it. As it stands, i'm trying to go cheap ,hence the HID in reflector idea. Would it be awfully too much to ask for some pictures of your car with the HID kit,perhaps lit over a darker road and how they look on the car?
you can buy great bixenon projector kits on aliexpress for 30 usd. My friends have them and they are great. I've bought myself a set and will be fitting it this weekend
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you can buy great bixenon projector kits on aliexpress for 30 usd. My friends have them and they are great. I've bought myself a set and will be fitting it this weekend
As a student ,I'd prefer not to spend more money. But hey, I just got a call for a job which might help me out with that.

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I had H7R's fitted by the previous owner, standard FL headlamps. Didn't like them much. They were fairly bright and cool, and the beam control wasn't awful, but they overwhelmed the cruddy standard mainbeams and made them seem worse. I took out the HID kit and replaced them with Philips Extreme +130% bulbs. Which are not a lot dimmer, and the better beam control is more useful. Plus I installed the H1 versions of the same as main beams. The headlamps are really quite good now. I expect Osram Nightbreakers would be too.

Proper HID with projector conversions would be better, I'm sure, but I'd save your money and just use ordinary high-output halogens. Not problematic with MOT either, and legal, which HID just cannot be on these cars as there is no type approval.
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I had H7R's fitted by the previous owner, standard FL headlamps. Didn't like them much. They were fairly bright and cool, and the beam control wasn't awful, but they overwhelmed the cruddy standard mainbeams and made them seem worse. I took out the HID kit and replaced them with Philips Extreme +130% bulbs. Which are not a lot dimmer, and the better beam control is more useful. Plus I installed the H1 versions of the same as main beams. The headlamps are really quite good now. I expect Osram Nightbreakers would be too.

Proper HID with projector conversions would be better, I'm sure, but I'd save your money and just use ordinary high-output halogens. Not problematic with MOT either, and legal, which HID just cannot be on these cars as there is no type approval.
I'm currently using Osram Silverstars +60% bulbs on my dipped beams. Standard H7 bulb on main. They were decently priced and the light output is superior to a standard bulb. Despite their good light output,it's yellow-ish and I'd like to eliminate that. Having in mind the Azzuro Gabbiano color of my 147 ,a nice white/blue light, 5000K for example, will look amazing.
A cheap eBay kit will come to around 40USD ,add 15USD for labour and that'll do me proper HID with projectors. No laws here regarding headlights.
I appreciate the high output halogen suggestion, but I don't really fancy them because of their shortened lifespan + their price in Bulgaria is atrocious. 40USD for those Philips bulbs you suggested. I might as well go HID projector for 15USD more.
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I've just installed mine yesterday, look at the difference
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I've just installed mine yesterday, look at the difference
Those do look great . We'll see, I'll most likely follow your example and go projector.
I have a question though. For those of you that run HIDs in reflector housing, how do you tackle mounting the bulb ? how does the retaining clip go on or is there some special adapters? I imagine you run first the cables through the retaining clip ,then place bulb, clip it?

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I removed the clip, placed the bulb, then fought the clip back into place over the wires.

It's fiddly as ******... Would be interested to hear if anyone figures out an easier way of getting it done!
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