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Cannot get into Reverse gear on GT

Hi, now the winter weather is here i find of a morning i cannot select Reverse gear until after maybe 10minutes of warming things up and running through all other gears, and yes i've tried rolling forward and then selecting Reverse.

The gear shift moves across to the right but cannot pull down into the reverse slot, very frustrating and no amount of forced seems to fix this, any ideas??

About 160,000kms on the clock.
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Dip the clutch, let the gears spin, try again.

My 43K V6 is pretty similar - rarely goes into reverse first time when cold.
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Mine can be tricky to find first or reverse when cold, but if I go in to third then back to neutral it usually slips into 1st nice and easy.
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Any more thoughts on this, was terrible again this morning, then I get to work with the car warm and couldn't get into Reverse to get into the carpark??
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there is some adjustment on the gearbox (IIRC the V6 box is the same as the JTD). The adjustment allows for side to side movement. Reverse is further over than 5/6th, and maybe the mechanism needs a slight adjustment. If you do a search for 'top hat bushes' you will see in the pics the adjustment rod.

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My whole gear stick became nearly unmovable when the temps here hit -15C. After some playing with the gears with the clutch disengaged , smooth operation was restored.
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The immovable gearstick when cold is the top hat bushes. Easy, cheap fix.
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The immovable gearstick when cold is the top hat bushes. Easy, cheap fix.
Replacing or just cleaning? My mechanic told me he needs to clean it in order to get it back to working order. Anyways, since it's not this cold anymore and it's back to nearly positive temps, would driving like that have any negative impact? In my cash strapped student life, each penny is worth saving
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You'd probably get away with a "clean and grease" but mine were pretty chewed up and they cost about 2 each...
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When I had that problem on my GT a few years back, I managed to get it working normally again just by cleaning lubricating the cables and the places they connect to the gearbox. If you get someone to move the gearstick between the gears while you watch the moving parts on the gearbox (shine a torch between the battery and the bulkhead). I found mine to be caked in black sticky road crud which I cleaned off, then I lubricated the moving parts and cable inners with silicone spray (I used an aerosol with a "straw" attachment to aim the spray in the required places). This freed up the movement of the gearstick allowing it to reach the extreme right where rear is to be found (self-centring improved also). Good luck!
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You'd probably get away with a "clean and grease" but mine were pretty chewed up and they cost about 2 each...
Ah yes, if you I go the route of fixing it,new ones is probably the way to go. I was wondering, can I just ignore it? I mean, it's still pretty smooth, just becomes worse with temps well below 0C. Weather got better and the gear level feels just fine.
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it can be ignored, they are on the outside of the box, but for a fiver why comprmise the driving enjoyment of your Alfa. Cleaning IMO is a waste of time, may as well replace as the work is almost the same.

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I have the exact same problem! Strange I come on here to complain and see this thread haha! If I put it in 1st then go into reverse it's fine which makes me worry it's the synchros.

I really can't afford to get a new gearbox and I've just had the same problems with my last car (350z), although that was with 6th and crunched when I tried to put it into gear, whereas this case seems to be different as it just doesn't go in.

It's just recently had the linkage bushes replaced too?
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they have disturbed the linkage and it needs adjusting then
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Update: ok what started as just Reverse gear not being able to get into is now most gears, 3rd feels fine - BUT - i now realise ALL gears are fine if i move to them with the car switched OFF. Why the hell would this be??????
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Your clutch is not completely disengaging.
The bearing may be worn off.
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Clutch pressed all the way to the floor to, feel like i'm trying to push it through the floor, may feel softer / spongier than usual. Thoughts?
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Bleed the clutch.
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can you get the gears when the engine is off?
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First step I'd say is get the battery and tray out and have some look to see that your clutch is disengaging fully, firstly and most importantly is it petrol or diesel?

either way though try bleeding the slave cylinder and see if that helps, I've recently done the top bushes and it really help but can still be a bit stiff first thing if its cold outside, that said mines normally fine if I start it up, depress the clutch and go between 3 and 4 a couple times and everything is fine...
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Yes works fine with engine OFF, and it's a Diesel.

Need to go to a mechanic so will recommend the bleeding clutch etc, thanks.
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Don't be surprised if you need a new slave cylinder. They seem to be made of cheese. Have a look at the rubber boot and pushrod (the slave is under the battery tray). If it's wet with fluid don't bother with getting it bled, just ask them to fit a new one. A leaking old one will need bleeding again with hours, days or weeks.
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