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Handbrake woes. Bump!

Well this week I had the misfortune of parking my alfa on a very slight incline at work and then having it roll backward shortly after I got out of it. Consequently, it rolled about 15 ft into the back of another car. I have attached a pic (2nd pic) of the fender damage which ****ed me off immensely.

I had only just had the MOT done on the car and had felt that the handbrake might've needed a bit of work done on it. So, I took the car back to the local garage and agreed to have the bodywork fixed today.

The other enclosed photo (1st pic) shows their best attempt at it. I'm still a bit peeved by it all but at least the garage done the work for nothing!

Turns out I've just been a bit of a dafty regarding the usage of the handbrake. I was pushing and holding the button down when putting it on, whereas I should apparently just crank the handbrake without the button and only use it when releasing it. My old Toyota didn't behave like that. Ho hum.

Anyway, does anyone have any input or direct knowledge about the costs of completely replacing the rear lower fender on a 156? Bet their costly....
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personally i would get one from a scrappy or ebay get it painted then swop them good luck
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Thats the third one I've heard of in about as many weeks
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personally i would get one from a scrappy or ebay get it painted then swop them good luck
in an ideal world you find one already painted in your colour.
it may take a few weeks but you save a fortune and are ensured a perfect colour match.
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I agree with Jug, if you can find one the correct colour it will save a lot of hassle. You can still use your car whilst you wait for one to turn up.
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The business about pushing the button is nonsense.
The handbrake is poor on many cars with rear disks.

Always leave it in gear!!
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yeah rear discs are famous for it. as they cool the contraction reduces the effort of the brakes. always give the handbrake lever a good pull.
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Never trust your handbrake alone, always leave your car in gear as well.
After a couple of days of having my 156 a neighbor call to tell me my car was sitting in the middle of the road after rolling off my driveway. Luckily no damage done and i thought that i had just not put the handbrake on correctly. But a couple of days later i parked up at a friends house was knocking on the door when i hear "clunk" and off started rolling the Alfa, Luckily i had not locked it and managed to chase it and stop it before it crashed into a car across the street. It turns out that 156 have crap handbrakes, especially in the cold. So now, as recommended in the highway code, i always leave the car in gear.

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As has already been said, never rely on the handbrake, ALWAYS leave it parked in gear.
It even tells you that in the owner's manual.


However when stationary in traffic, always use the handbrake, never sit with your foot on the brake.
Appart from ****ing off everyone behind you it is also bad for the discs & pads.
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As has already been said, never rely on the handbrake, ALWAYS leave it parked in gear.
It even tells you that in the owner's manual.


However when stationary in traffic, always use the handbrake, never sit with your foot on the brake.
Appart from ****ing off everyone behind you it is also bad for the discs & pads.
I always park in gear, but normally hold it on the clutch on hills and so on.
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I always park in gear, but normally hold it on the clutch on hills and so on.

Doesn't holding the car on the clutch (on a hill) burn the clutch?
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yep, not a good idea.

Not nice when you are sat on a hill behind someone that is doing that either...
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I need a new one anyway
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it will reduce the life of the clutch plate, but how many people keep a car long enough to worry about it? it wont make a massive difference to clutch life, as proven by millions of motorists around the world every day.
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The business about pushing the button is nonsense.
The handbrake is poor on many cars with rear disks.

Always leave it in gear!!
What he said, the excuse that it's your fault for pressing the button is guff of the highest order.
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What he said, the excuse that it's your fault for pressing the button is guff of the highest order.
Absolutely.
Pressing the button when you apply the handbrake is good because it reduces wear on the locking mechanism.
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As David so rightly points out, depressing the button reduces the wear on the ratchet and pawl mechanism. Button depressed, raise lever, until cable tension is felt, with a fairly strong pull, then release the button, and click a couple of notches or so, until it feels nice and taught.

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Thanks for the input - no point crying over spilt milk I suppose. Does anyone have any idea where I could best source a replacement bumper then? I live near Edinburgh.
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this might be worth a look on ebay
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Re: Handbrake woes. Bump!

OK so, following on from when I bumped my car, I now want to either get a respray done or a replacement bumper. I live near Edinburgh, so can anyone advise the following:-

1) Is it wiser to get the 'mended' bumper resprayed or the whole car?
2) Or is it wiser to replace the bumper with a new one? Won't the paintwork colouring be slightly different due to fading considering my car is 04?
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1) Is it wiser to get the 'mended' bumper resprayed or the whole car?
2) Or is it wiser to replace the bumper with a new one? Won't the paintwork colouring be slightly different due to fading considering my car is 04?
I can't really see the justification for respraying the whole car if only the bumper is damaged - have you priced up a full respray?

The paintwork may have faded, but a good bodyshop will be able to match the new paint to the old so that it's pretty well undetectable - they may suggest partially respraying the adjacent panels to blend it in if it's a 'problem' colour.

Your best bet is to take it to a bodyshop & discuss your options - body work ain't cheap!
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