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A couple of problems, advice welcomed!

My 156 has just clicked past 100,000 miles so it's proved easily more reliable than the old Alfa "reputation" would have led me to expect but I do have a couple of problems. In order of severity / annoyance value:

1) engine management light on (steady, not flashing) from today. I assume it could be one of a number of potential issues. Does it need an Alfa dealer / specialist to read the fault code or could any reputable garage do it?

2) I have no back-light illumination on my rev counter (I have the model with the white dials). All warning lights and the LED odo display are fine, just the rev counter is in darkness during hours of darkness. Does anyone know how to get to and replace the bulbs back there, and the spec of the bulb(s) please?

3) I have a "blown bulb" warning light whenever the lights are on but both headlights, both side lights and both tail lights are working fine. How can I make it go away?

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Fairly confident the bulb will be the rear number plate one.

Codes can be read with any generic reader.

Dash board light repair is probably very awkward.
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Engine management warning light may be the MAF unit.
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Engine management warning light may be the MAF unit.
Or a 101 other things. Read codes.
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Removing the rev counter to replace the bulbs is indeed as dgmayhead indicates, really hard. It should take you about 3 minutes if you stop for a cup of coffee half way through.........

One screw at the top holds the mounting bezel, then two screws hold the rev counter in place. Bulbs are small capless ones, push-fit in twist-out holders.
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Removing the rev counter to replace the bulbs is indeed as dgmayhead indicates, really hard. It should take you about 3 minutes if you stop for a cup of coffee half way through.........

One screw at the top holds the mounting bezel, then two screws hold the rev counter in place. Bulbs are small capless ones, push-fit in twist-out holders.
No. Engine out defo.
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Update:
My friendly local garage cleared ALL the (old?) error codes. The logic being if the light comes back on, there will only be one (or a few) errors shown which will aid diagnosis. Fingers crossed.

dgmayhead - you are a genius. there is indeed a blown number plate light! I can't believe I didn't think of that, DUH!

So all that's left is the rev counter. I'm torn, should I take the engine out or just remove three screws in the dashboard...
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For the rev counter I'd go with the screws......if it was the bulbs in the temp/clock/fuel group, go for the engine out - almost certainly quicker and easier.......

I've had the clock light out on ours ever since we've had it -more than 2 years.......
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Regarding the codes, I bought one of these readers for less than 20 including postage:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-ALFA-R...item25b1e6b0f8
It's great for reading and deleting the codes yourself (for free!) and then being able to have a rough idea of what the problem is.
Regarding the light bulb warning, for next time, in the owner's manual there is a section that specifies which lights are monitored and will trigger the outside light failure warning (page 103 on mine) They are:
-Sidelights
-Braking lights (or corresponding fuse)
-Rear fog guards
-Number plate lights
The manual also mentions that it "may mean one or more blown bulbs, a burnt fuse or cut off connection".
Hope this helps and that the MCSF warning problem is not too damaging to your pocket!

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Thanks TheVarix, I may have to invest in one of those, cheaper than what I paid to have my codes read today!

My car is quite bulb-hungry, so that warning light is on a lot. It's usually a side light or stop / tail light. I just completely forgot that there's two bulbs illuminating the number plate and assumed the warning light was on the blink!

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Regarding the codes, I bought one of these readers for less than 20 including postage:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-ALFA-R...item25b1e6b0f8
It's great for reading and deleting the codes yourself (for free!) and then being able to have a rough idea of what the problem is.
Regarding the light bulb warning, for next time, in the owner's manual there is a section that specifies which lights are monitored and will trigger the outside light failure warning (page 103 on mine) They are:
-Sidelights
-Braking lights (or corresponding fuse)
-Rear fog guards
-Number plate lights
The manual also mentions that it "may mean one or more blown bulbs, a burnt fuse or cut off connection".
Hope this helps and that the MCSF warning problem is not too damaging to your pocket!
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My car is quite bulb-hungry, so that warning light is on a lot. It's usually a side light or stop / tail light.
I am by no means an expert but if your car is burning out lots of light bulbs, it could be a symptom of problems with the current they receive. Perhaps of a problem with the alternator/voltage regulator? I am sure people more knowledgeable than me will come to the rescue!
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That would be my reaction too. But it's done it since day 1, 14 years and 80,000 miles ago, with no other evidence of charging / regulation issues and always good battery life. So I just put it down to Alfa "character".

Compared to the Fiat Tipo I had as a hire car back in the late 80s, which would blow bulbs and fuses all the bloody time, the Alfa has reliable electrics. Amused to see Fiat have brought back the Tipo model name in 2016 !

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I am by no means an expert but if your car is burning out lots of light bulbs, it could be a symptom of problems with the current they receive. Perhaps of a problem with the alternator/voltage regulator? I am sure people more knowledgeable than me will come to the rescue!
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Not sure you've had chance to look for the rev counter bulbs yet, but I got some recently from Amazon which did the trick for very little money: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Linky no worky but I got some at my local car parts store. Probably paid a bit more than from Amazon but it's a local business worth supporting! They also sold me a tub of 600 cable ties while I was there!

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Not sure you've had chance to look for the rev counter bulbs yet, but I got some recently from Amazon which did the trick for very little money: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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