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Hid Xenon Light Conversion Kits

Anybody bought and installed these off ebay....

NEW ALFA ROMEO 147 156 HID XENON LIGHT CONVERSION KIT on eBay, also Bulbs Lenses, Lights Lighting Accessories, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 04-Mar-08 12:36:45 GMT)

Would be interested to hear experiences and whether they do shed more light on the road...
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Re: Hid Xenon Light Conversion Kits

the kit seems to be genuinie xenons/HID, but...

the advertisement pic says it all:

i presume the HID is on the right of the pic, when it SHOULD look more like the left. the amount of scatter and glare seen on the right is unacceptable IMO.

what the kit doesn't include is:
*'projector lens' housing (fisheye) with appropriate 'masks' to contain scatter and reduce glare
*self levelling system
*headlight washers

these are requirements over here for 'factory fitted' xenons, and probably where you are too. not sure about aftermarket fitments though - the rules may be slightly different.

'some' cars are terrible for glare (to oncoming traffic) when you fit xenons to standard halogen lenses, and it's truly hazardous (eg: honda civic). though i think the 156 isn't so bad from what people have said.

personally, i'd do the right thing and not fit aftermarket xenons, because oncoming traffic may hate you for it. up to you.

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its illegal. here's an actual letter from the department for transport when asked about HID's.

In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.

The following is the legal rationale:

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.

However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle).

For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.

Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:

1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.

2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).

3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.
In practice this means:

1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.

2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.

3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal

In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.

If you require any further information regarding the regulations covered by this fact sheet, please contact the DfT at the address below:

Trasport Technology and Standards 6
Department for Transport
Zone 2/04
Great Minster House
76 Marsham Street Telephone: 020 7944 2078
London Fax: 020 7944 2196
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Re: Hid Xenon Light Conversion Kits

Thanks "jug" guess that solves the matter....well and truley.
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I've had a 6k kit for a year now, even passed the MOT with flying colours. MOT bloke even commented that for a kit, had a good beam pattern. Maybe that's down to my OEM GTA headlights more than anything though.

Just make sure you get an H7R kit. Shorter lamps mean better beam pattern.
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