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Just a quick one hopefully. I have a high milage 2005 1.9gt. Its got all the goodies like, smf, hybrid turbo (probably an early one if they've change though out the years?), egr delete, remap.......
How difficult would it be to use an engine and box from a 2008 1.9 q2 147 as a replacement?
Would all the parts be interchangeable (I assume the ecu wouldn't be)
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Hi mate, pretty sure you need Ecu, ignition barrel and immobiliser as a rule of thumb for any modern engines now. But may be wrong. If you find any info out of the forums please post as I have the same car and is of great interest.

Also what's your hybrid turbo put your bhp to, any other mods needed...


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Just a quick one hopefully. I have a high milage 2005 1.9gt. Its got all the goodies like, smf, hybrid turbo (probably an early one if they've change though out the years?), egr delete, remap.......
How difficult would it be to use an engine and box from a 2008 1.9 q2 147 as a replacement?
Would all the parts be interchangeable (I assume the ecu wouldn't be)

2005 is gonna be CF3 emissions standard, 2008 is CF4... So there will be different intake manifolds, different sensors dotted about etc...

I reckon it can be done (same block and head I believe), but you might end up with the majority of your current car/engine being fitted onto the newer engine block and gearbox....

Pud - you know engines right? Tell me how wrong I've got it
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I figured there'd be a lot of swapping of parts. I'm trying to get hold of a complete car so I would have everything needed. The 147 I'm looking at has had a bit of a rear end shunt.
Nor sure what the hybrid is or the exact power output, hope to get it on a dyno soon. Joey mentioned about heading down to see ned at some point so may have see if he's still up for that
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I know a company that builds the hybrids to spec using your old turbo. Was going to go for one able to handle 200bhp but men't getting bigger inter cooler and stuff which I can't even find one for the 1.9 jtd GT.. So just wondered if you had managed to source one or just put the hybrid on.


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I know a company that builds the hybrids to spec using your old turbo. Was going to go for one able to handle 200bhp but men't getting bigger inter cooler and stuff which I can't even find one for the 1.9 jtd GT.. So just wondered if you had managed to source one or just put the hybrid on.


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Check out JTD Performance for a Front Mount Intercooler kit for the GT.

That being said, you can get great gains without needing a FMIC.. Check out the pages on Autolusso's website, they're quickly becoming the go-to for Hybrids!
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Does it need a new engine/gearbox or something?
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Pud - I have 184k on the clock so just thought I'd freshen it up a bit. The one i was looking at also has a q2 so thought I'd do it all in one hit. I've found a 72k 147 q2 on an auto on site that I'm contemplating. Just weighing up whether it's worth it or not.

There's a few gt's out there running 200+ without the fmic. You could do as ed has said and see what those companies have to offer or piece it together yourself. I've got a fmic waiting to go on (probably done by the of the month!).
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I wouldn't worry about the engine, it'll be just as good at 184k as it was at 84k. Gearbox might be a bit tired feeling.. Its an easy enough swap, the engine looms are different and the injectors are different so you'd need to use your CF3 injectors back in the CF4 engine. Inlet manifold has swirl flaps on the CF4 so use your CF3 inlet manifold. But to be honest unless you have a broken engine it just doesn't sound worth it.
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I know you can run them without a inter cooler but I thought you wouldn't get the best out of the turbo? Is jtd performance where you got your fmic from. Auto lusso seem abit on the expensive side...


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Might be worth swapping the gbox if you get it at the right price.. Q2 upgrade is worth it alone... The younger gearbox itself is a nice bonus on the side!
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I don't think it's broken, just sounds more "agricultural" then most lol.
I'd just like to try and push it a bit more. But if there's no point in swapping it then I shan't bother
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Ed - at the current price I would probably get the q2 done with loz. Although like you said the younger gearbox would be a bonus!
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I don't think it's broken, just sounds more "agricultural" then most lol.
That's how mine has sounded since 30k

Not the best sounding engine I'll admit!
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Prop - I got my intercooler from joeymannero. I believe it's a universal cooler and pipework with an additional u bend form jtd performance. From what I can gather that u bend makes a hell of a difference.
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