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Bought my very first Alfa GT Cloverleaf today...

A few niggles to be fixed...

1) Engine light is on

2) Very low power even with sport button on (Suspect egr issue?).

3) hideous knocking noise coming from underneath of car, near the N/S rear left area

First problem needs to be fixed is the power loss!
Goes to limp mode above 90mph, and feels very slow when accelerating, and high speeds.

Was told to clean the EGR, or delete EGR and DPF which should cure the problem.

Anyone shed some light...? 2008, 1.9 JTD Cloverleaf




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1. Could be any number of things... Get the codes read and start with that... But yea EGR delete is often a good starting point even if that isn't what's throwing up the error code.

2. Related to 1. Fix the known faults first, see what you've got left.

3. Had that once myself - exhaust hanger let go and caused awful knocking in that area.. Easy fix as long as nothing is rotted out... Not a lot else in the area that might be knocking.. Possibly suspension link arms I guess...
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Thanks for the reply and answers. I'll be taking her to my specialist tomorrow, and see what codes come up. Keep you updated

By the way...any Alfa car show/events happening soon down the South West area? I'm from Bristol.


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You went a long way for that cat mate. Wasn't it in Scotland? I have the exact same model and colour and they are lovely cars. Your knocking could be roll bar related (my front ARB was jiggered when I got mine). The power issue sounds like sensor or EGR but as you say, get the error codes read as it could be a number of issues. Let us know how you get on and enjoy the car.

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Always a risk buying a car with a few niggles. Hope it was cheap. My biggest concern on that engine if it wasn't running sweet would be swirl flaps.
Hopefully you need some new silicon hosing for the vnt solenoid and a blank for the egr but you may not be so lucky.
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You went a long way for that cat mate. Wasn't it in Scotland? I have the exact same model and colour and they are lovely cars. Your knocking could be roll bar related (my front ARB was jiggered when I got mine). The power issue sounds like sensor or EGR but as you say, get the error codes read as it could be a number of issues. Let us know how you get on and enjoy the car.

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Yes bud lol...crazy I know lol. This Alfa GT was within my budget and bought it for very cheap. Car was located in Livingstone, near Edinburgh.

Wherever I drive her, people just stare at the GT and compliment on the car. Feel very proud of owning it

Car is booked for checks next week Monday, so for now I'm driving it locally. My instinct is EGR related and DPF, as when it goes past 3K rpm she really pulls like a train! I do have a spray of EGR cleaner so will use that and see if it makes any difference.

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Always a risk buying a car with a few niggles. Hope it was cheap. My biggest concern on that engine if it wasn't running sweet would be swirl flaps.

Hopefully you need some new silicon hosing for the vnt solenoid and a blank for the egr but you may not be so lucky.


Bought the car for cheap. Comes with FSH and stamped, last serviced 6K miles ago.

I was told these 1.9 JTD GT don't have swirl flaps? I'm sure it does cause I read it online that they do. Please can you re-confirm and let me know.

Is it best to delete swirl flaps, EGR and DPF at the same time? Will remap it as well. The previous owner fitted a Blue Lusso Silicone pipe, have the receipt too.


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Bought the car for cheap. Comes with FSH and stamped, last serviced 6K miles ago.

I was told these 1.9 JTD GT don't have swirl flaps? I'm sure it does cause I read it online that they do. Please can you re-confirm and let me know.

Is it best to delete swirl flaps, EGR and DPF at the same time? Will remap it as well. The previous owner fitted a Blue Lusso Silicone pipe, have the receipt too.


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Yes, they do have swirl flaps. I'm not sure about the EGR and DPF - won't it fail an MOT with these removed? If you remap, don't go above 180 bhp. If you do, you will shorten the life of your clutch. I've had 2 diesel GTs and I'm not sure why anyone would want more power and risk big bills later - they are plenty fast enough IMHO. The Cloverleaf in the Atlantico metallic is probably the best looking GT of the whole range. Sweet car.
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Hi mate. No PDT on these in the UK so a little less to worry about. Mines just started leaking oil from the oil cooler so that's another job that's booked in for mine. Otherwise ours are indentical in the looks department. I can confirm the compliments keep coming.

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hope it works out for you,

as said previously you may be lucky and it could just be boost leak or vac leak,but if the car is higher mileage I would not be surprised if MAF,MAP, and VNT solenoid are on the way out, you could have to replace turbo hoses,anywhere between 65 and 75k is a bad mileage to buy these at as its time for so many things to be replaced, cambelt,clutch, sensors and switches mentioned above, various hoses, handbrake cables, radiator is common at around 7-9 years and that kind of mileage, upper and lower wishbones,arb drop links, clutch, flywheel and they do have swirl flaps and of course the egr but thankfully no DPF.

oil cooler is another well known weak area so a thorough inspection of the cooler pipes and unions is vital.


I speak from experience on this as although mine is currently non 111k all of the above have been replaced in the last 18 months along with two door handles ,a window control unit and I have had swirl flap delete and of course hybrid turbo and full suspension replacement as well...and I bought her at 76k, if I was to buy another derv GT I would buy a higher mileage one (100k or above ) and know its all likely been done.

these engines are good for 300k so no need to worry about the lump, better to evaluate on bodywork and work outside of basic servicing that has been carried out.

good luck! awesome car when running right and the atlantico is a peach of a colour..
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Thanks Alan. I did the same with my previous TDI's and my local MOT tester passed it with EGR and DPF delete. This GT has the LSD, and a sport button that gives an extra 20 bhp, 170 in total. Get it remapped and I'm looking around 200 BHP! But I do understand in what your saying.

Yes, I can see your profile pic very identical indeed. They look stunning, I can't stop staring at it lol.



Is there any Italian car shows coming up anytime soon? Would love to meet you guys and join the Alfa crew.




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Thanks Alan. I did the same with my previous TDI's and my local MOT tester passed it with EGR and DPF delete. This GT has the LSD, and a sport button that gives an extra 20 bhp, 170 in total. Get it remapped and I'm looking around 200 BHP! But I do understand in what your saying.

Yes, I can see your profile pic very identical indeed. They look stunning, I can't stop staring at it lol. Is there any Italian car shows coming up anytime soon? Would love to meet you guys and join the Alfa crew.

One other thing...

How can I remove these swirl flaps, or how much would it roughly cost from a garage?


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