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WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Has anyone else had the problem of water in the drivers footwell ? I have been through the other wet alfa posts but none seem quite like the problem I have. Everytime it rains the drivers footwell is soaked, it appears to be getting behind the fitted carpet and soaking up through the mats as opposed to dripping from above. If anyone can point me in the right direction as to where to start looking for the leak it would be much apprieciated.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

A holed or poorly fitted rain sheet (a membrane) located within the door is quite often the source of such a problem - if you see puddles of water sitting in the raised (plastic-covered) door step, then it is a likely candidate. I've got my 147 booked in with Reg vardy to have ANOTHER look at solving my leaks.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Originally Posted by Clengineer
A holed or poorly fitted rain sheet (a membrane) located within the door is quite often the source of such a problem - if you see puddles of water sitting in the raised (plastic-covered) door step, then it is a likely candidate. I've got my 147 booked in with Reg vardy to have ANOTHER look at solving my leaks.
Thanks for this, I have had the door trim off as I was finding water on the sill inside, the membrane was damaged so I taped it up, this stopped the water puddling on the sill but the footwell was still soaked.
Running out of ideas and don't have a lot of faith in a dealer sorting it.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Hi,

I have exactly the same problem mine seems to be leaking from the sponge on the bulkhead as this is soaked.

Does anyone have any idea how to cure this.

HHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPP PPPPP

My feet are fed up of being wet.


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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Originally Posted by moore3000 View Post
I have exactly the same problem mine seems to be leaking from the sponge on the bulkhead as this is soaked.
That could point to the drain from the A/C system.
With the A/C running you should see a steady drip of water under the car close to the bulkhead. If it isn't finding its way to under the car that is why your feet are getting wet!

There is a known fix for it that most Alfa specialists will know about.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

further more to Davids right diagnosis, the drain tube from the AC sometimes comes loose (or leaking) and the condense water drips into the footwell !
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Hi,

If it is the Air Con pipe then would this really saturate the whole front driver carpet in one day, how much water does the air con make.

I travelled 100 miles yesterday in the rain and got home and the matt was so wet when i pushed down my fingers were covered in water. Its not coming from the seals under the car but from somewere in or around the engine compartment.

I have brought new sound proof which i am reluctant to fit until i have solved the problem, my Alfa dealer did say they had modifed my air con pipe they had the car for 5 mins so not sure if they did anything(how long does this really take?).

The only thing i can think it is is water coming from the sponge behing the bulk head. does anyone now how to sort this out.

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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Hi if it was the A/C drain it normally wets the N/S footwell as the drain is situated on that side, it seems all they have done for the repair is possibly just opened up the outlet pipe but what i really needs is the pipe extending by fitting off a longer pipe onto the excisting A/C outlet (Fiat Tipo/Tempra breather pipe from engine is a good fit.) you just cut it to length so you have an angle on to direct the water downwards and seal the outer A/C oulet.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Hi me again the other problem i have found on the 147/GT is the lower door seal requires cutting at the door drain slots wright at the bottom of the doors there are 3 off them to find and cut a small section out also make sure yor centre drain in the bulkhead is not blocked and that your grommets on the bulkhead are all securly fitted. Have done alot off these mods and they seem to work OK on the customer,s vehicles. Hope this helps.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Could be coming from pedalbox if its really bad on drivers side.If so its a dash out job unless you know the quick method.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

My passenger had damp toes as well last week. We drove down from Herts to Devon - around 250 miles. When we got to our destination there was loads of water in the passenger footwell. Just as you described, it seemed that the water was coming up from underneath. The sponge right by the centre of the car in the corner of the footwell was damp like Mike's so I realised it couldn't be door seals etc. It is deceiving as the water sinks due to gravity of course, but the artificial fibres of the carpet dry quickly making it seem to be coming in from low down rather than above.

In fact it was the aircon drain pipe. The nice chaps at Cambourne Alfa in deepest Kernow sorted it for me last week... They said it was a very common problem and they have rerouted my drainage pipe.

It it suprising how much water can be produced by cooling air ! The footwell is still drying out. I may request my local dealer replaces the sound dampening material as the car is still under warranty.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Hi guys, try a forum search.
This has been well covered in the distant past.

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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Thanks for your replys, however my passenger side is completely dry but the drivers side is soaked could this still be the air con pipe, also the bulkhead drain and grommetts how and were do i check those to see if they are all ok and unblocked.

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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Hi Its me again, I have changed Pollen Filters and noticed that the when i push the sponge by the bulkhead water is coming from there. can anyone explain how i get to the air con drain pipe, is it from the inside or outside of the car and is it an easy job to put new wxteneded pipe on.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Outside,you will see water dripping out of rubber pipe (2" diameter) if you have aircon on,its located quite far down.The ends of this pipe 'fold' in & this is the problem,just cut off the last 1/2" to leave a 'fully open' pipe end & it should be fine.If not then you can stick a extra section of pipe in.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

I had the same problem with a wet footwell at the driver side. My problem only occured when it rained outside or when I washed the car. The windscreen list was the root cause to my problem. I fixed it with some silicon paste.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Right then, the first thing i am going to do is to extend the outlet drain pipe from the air con, i can see it dripping when the air is on does this mean its ok and does not need extending or modifying????

With regards to the windscreen what part did you seal and were was the leak coming in from.

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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

The leak was at the bottom of the windscreen. It was easy to spot since the list wasn't tight against the glas. I just smeared some silicon ontop the list until there were a complete cover between the glas and the pastic panel.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

HELLO ALL,

i got a 2001 147 with exactly the same wet passenger footwell, on a rainy night there can be easily an inch sitting atop the carpet on passenger side, suggesting it aint the air con as the engine is off an it still gets soaked... so any ideas?

...have taken plastic panel off below screen, couldnt see anythin obviously wrong but then i aint an expert. all the 'specialists' i have contacted have soundedd as puzzled as me (quality!)... the car stinks of damp, i live in wales where it rains almost every day, its crap!!!

Please someone tell me whats wrong with it, or who can FIX IT?!

i love the car but its got to go unless this gets sorted, no point turning up for work in an Alfa if you smell like a jumble sale at a grannies house!!
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

Take the interior panel off of the door and look for any gaps in the plastic sheet.
Water will flow through the door and out via the drain holes at the bottom, but if there are any gaps in that sheet water will get into the car.

If you have a sunroof, check the drain pipes from there too.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

cool, thanks, will do.... but wouldn't that give me heavy & sloshing doors full of water? ...or wet around roof lining or pillars? ...neither of which i have noticed.. just spoke to Platts Alfa in Stoke (near my work), they say air con , £130 to fix...relocate pipe etc... expensive!!
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

No the doors wouldn't fill up, you just get water running into the car as well as out of the bottom of the door.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

cool, in shall have a look, thanks.
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

hi, erm, sorry, but is it hard to get the door panels back on again? ...on previous (non alfa) cars this has sometimes been a right hassle!
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Re: WET 147 Drivers Footwell

I've not tried it on a 147. It was ok refitting on my 156.
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