Crosswagon front suspension

Tamariini · #1 (**Post Link**) 30-06-12

Hi all,

i have shock absorber failure on my '05 Crosswagon and alfa says they are not available anymore! Or at least delivery time is awfully long....

Does anyone of you know if shocks from "standard height" 156 will fit?? they are with a different number but if dimensions are the same and i would buy a set with adjustable stiffness i think it would work fine.

thanks in advance.

David C · #2 (**Post Link**) 30-06-12

Later Crosswagons used the Sportwagon Q4 front dampers, p/n 50705574.
Can you get those any quicker?

hixvon · #3 (**Post Link**) 21-09-12

Tamariini, I have also problems with front shock absorbers. Did you find solution? thanks in advance.

Tamariini · #4 (**Post Link**) 22-09-12

No proper solution found yet, i bought a set of Q4 dampers. They do fit but front end is a LOT lower than it used to be

about 30mm lower...

hixvon · #5 (**Post Link**) 24-09-12

Pity. I am able to buy new shock absorbers, but the price is too high(about 200 euro per piece without wicks, rings and springs).

David C · #6 (**Post Link**) 24-09-12

Originally Posted by Tamariini

No proper solution found yet, i bought a set of Q4 dampers. They do fit but front end is a LOT lower than it used to be

about 30mm lower...

Are you 100% sure they were Q4 dampers and did you use your original Crosswagon springs?

hixvon · #7 (**Post Link**) 24-09-12

On the EPER SW Q4 has shock absorber prod. code 50705574, but CW Q4 50704478. And SW should be lower.

David C · #8 (**Post Link**) 24-09-12

Originally Posted by hixvon

On the EPER SW Q4 has shock absorber prod. code 50705574, but CW Q4 50704478.

How old is the ePER you are looking at?

hixvon · #9 (**Post Link**) 24-09-12

I am looking at FIAT ePER :: The FIAT Forum Maybe it too old, but official FIAT dealer(in Slovakia) confirmed these codes.

David C · #10 (**Post Link**) 24-09-12

Originally Posted by hixvon

I am looking at FIAT ePER :: The FIAT Forum Maybe it too old, but official FIAT dealer(in Slovakia) confirmed these codes.

ok, there is a note in later ePER though next to the Q4 part:
"10932 - EXTENDED USE OF SHOCK ABSORBERS STREET VERSION ON CROSSWAGON VERSION (DAT 15/02/2006) "

If the spring seat height is the same on both, then the ride height should stay the same.

hixvon · #11 (**Post Link**) 25-09-12

David C, thank you for info.
Tamariini, can you compare seat height of SW Q4 dampers and original CW dampers?

Tamariini · #12 (**Post Link**) 30-09-12

Originally Posted by David C

Are you 100% sure they were Q4 dampers and did you use your original Crosswagon springs?

Yes, that's what they told me at the dealer.

Originally Posted by hixvon

David C, thank you for info.
Tamariini, can you compare seat height of SW Q4 dampers and original CW dampers?

Seat height on crosswagon compared to SW Q4 seems to go something like this:
http://www.alfabbs.fi/download/file.php?id=4417

Q4 SW
X: 22cm
Y: 47,5cm

crosswagon
X: 25cm
Y: 52cm

Measured with basic measuring tape so measurements are not very accurate...

David C · #13 (**Post Link**) 30-09-12

OK, at least that confirms that the spring seats are lower on the Q4 dampers.

hixvon · #14 (**Post Link**) 01-10-12

Tamariini, thank you.
Anyone knows, is exist equivalent to original?(Koni, bilstein, kyb....)

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