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Which Eibach Springs For My GT?
Pro Kit or Sportline?
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15-06-12
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I want to lower it.
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15-06-12
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mine are red....
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cant find an invoice btw...
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Pro kit are black. Sportline are red. But it would seem that Sportline springs aren't available for the GT.
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Originally Posted by Roswell
Pro kit are black. Sportline are red.
From previous replies it would seam that isn't always the case!
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15-06-12
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Originally Posted by Roswell
Pro kit are black. Sportline are red. But it would seem that Sportline springs aren't available for the GT. 
For most Eibach springs that is correct, but for the Alfa range its the other way around. Confusing...
I would say don't do it unless you are changing the shocks also. You'll hate the ride.
Bilstein B12 kit (Bilstein shocks & -30mm drop springs specially made for these shocks by Eibach) is good, and not too costly as far as a matched suspension kit goes.
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Better then then Koni Sport of FSD?
I got told the B12 are very harsh,
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We will never be fitting Koni again following recent problems
B12 kit is really good and if there is a problem they will work with us
Ros, let me know what parts you want to go for and I will sort you a deal
Ned
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15-06-12
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Problems? Koni? Please tell
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16-06-12
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Originally Posted by TOX1C
Problems? Koni? Please tell 
There's been several posts on here where members have had problems with FSDs going 'soft' and not proving to be 'reliable' - response from Koni hasn't been supportive and I think Ned has said that Koni have provided no after sales support on this at all.
Personally I wouldn't put FSDs on my 156. When I upgrade I'll consider Bilstein, probably a mild upgrade such as the B6 (which is one up from the stabdard B4) and coupled with oe Veloce springs. Red Eibach prokit -20mm drop on my Spider work great but I'm not sure about -30mm drop on a 156 JTD 150.
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Originally Posted by Pud237
For most Eibach springs that is correct, but for the Alfa range its the other way around. Confusing...
I would say don't do it unless you are changing the shocks also. You'll hate the ride.
Bilstein B12 kit (Bilstein shocks & -30mm drop springs specially made for these shocks by Eibach) is good, and not too costly as far as a matched suspension kit goes.
Originally Posted by Autolusso
B12 kit is really good and if there is a problem they will work with us.
Ros, let me know what parts you want to go for and I will sort you a deal 
I think a 30mm drop will be about right.
I was thinking about just changing the springs. Why will I hate the ride?
PM me a price to supply the B12 kit please Ned.
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Would a B12 and Sportline kit work?
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Eibach do dampers as well as springs, but have no idea as to what there like.
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16-06-12
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Originally Posted by Roswell
I think a 30mm drop will be about right.
I was thinking about just changing the springs. Why will I hate the ride?
PM me a price to supply the B12 kit please Ned.
They make the ride crashy with just lowered springs. Coupled with 18" wheels its can be a bit of a disaster, especially if your shocks are passed their best.
Originally Posted by Roswell
Would a B12 and Sportline kit work?
You can get the kit with Sportline springs instead Pro springs but I've not tried it or seen it fitted, so no idea if it would be too low for speedbumps etc. I think you'd be the first, I've not heard of anyone on here with this combo fitted.
Originally Posted by Durham156
Eibach do dampers as well as springs, but have no idea as to what there like.
They are good, a bit on the firm side but good. I've done plenty of miles in an Alfa with Eibach shocks, springs & roll bars on 18" wheels and at first I didn't like them but they grew on me. Very good for enthusiastic driving, but a bit wearing on the motorway especially where you get dips in the road, feels a bit bouncy. I think these might have been phased out now though in preference over the Bilstein B12 kit which Eibach do sell. As their old shocks were not their own anyway, they were made by KW who also make Eibach's Pro Street S coilovers.
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I have the eibach pro kit springs (they are red) with standard shocks on 18's. Got them from a place in germany.
I would describe the ride better than it was. Basically swapped a crash for more of a bounce ...it doesn't make you grit your teeth when you hit a pothole but if you're on an A road that has a few bumps its not a great ride and doesn't inspire confidence. I'm usually either on a motorway or city roads so no probs for my M.O.
Looks great being lower though!
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It may look good but on our bumpy roads here in East Anglia it's not a great idea.
Of course in the NE, where Rosser comes from, this labour dominated hinterland benefited from 13 years of Labour Central Government, who were quite biased in spending money on infrastructure in labour constituencies. Conversely, in the Tory dominated shires, no money was spent at all.
Of course with the current idiots running the Government no money is being spent on anything at all
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Originally Posted by Pud237
They make the ride crashy with just lowered springs. Coupled with 18" wheels its can be a bit of a disaster, especially if your shocks are passed their best.
You can get the kit with Sportline springs instead Pro springs but I've not tried it or seen it fitted, so no idea if it would be too low for speedbumps etc. I think you'd be the first, I've not heard of anyone on here with this combo fitted.
So B12 and Pro kit is the way to go but I need to know its going to lower the car. I'm not interested in a better ride at the same height.
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It seems strange that for many year FSD's have been regarded as the best option for the 156, and suddenly they are to be avoided. In normal driving they can seem soft and under-damped, particularly on rebound, but when needed and responding to a sudden load they do firm nicely.
The advantage of being "soft" when driving in a straight line or gently seems to have been overlooked; despite our vision of Alfas being driven the whole time "like you stole it", in reality most of the time we do spend cruising and at low speeds. If you don't then go for a stiffer shock, but for me FSD's have worked well for many years and continue to do so.
I guess you'll say Eibach ARB's have a big influence on the way the car drives, but they haven't always been fitted!
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+1
It's all down to the support, they are NOT a bad combo. I've had no problems, they were pushed by Autolusso, and they still have them on the website!
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17-06-12
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Originally Posted by Spider95
It may look good but on our bumpy roads here in East Anglia it's not a great idea.
Of course in the NE, where Rosser comes from, this labour dominated hinterland benefited from 13 years of Labour Central Government, who were quite biased in spending money on infrastructure in labour constituencies. Conversely, in the Tory dominated shires, no money was spent at all.
Of course with the current idiots running the Government no money is being spent on anything at all 
No, not biting.
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Originally Posted by steveisfrowning
No, not biting. 
Well I'd bite
Our local Tory MP, who has a very high profile on TV, is moaning about the roads all the time, but nothing will be done. We just bump along the roads and swerve all over the place avoiding the craters.
I'd be out like a shot getting the prokit for my 156 if I lived somewhere like Durham
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Originally Posted by Roswell
So B12 and Pro kit is the way to go but I need to know its going to lower the car. I'm not interested in a better ride at the same height.
Got that on my GTA and it has lowered it, much better ride aswell
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17-06-12
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Im having the B12 kit fitted next week I can let you know the results, I too would like mine slightly lowered
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Originally Posted by andycGT
I'm having the B12 kit fitted next week I can let you know the results, I too would like mine slightly lowered
With Pro Kit springs?
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