Yet another JTDm 16V cam belt failure...

rossedwards · #1 (**Post Link**) 01-05-12

...Sods Law, it happened the week before I was going to book it in for a change :-(

Doing 55 down a dual carriageway (just come out of a 50 zone with Gatsos), lost all power, servos, steering etc.

It's now at my tame mechanics in Cheshunt and has been dismantled, but they've been quoted over £1100 from Alfa for parts - sounds like a right rip-off to me!

My mechanic's suggested that I get online and source the (OEM) parts myself for cheaper... so, any recommendations on suppliers? It looks like I need the usual:

Cam belt kit
Water pump
Rockers x 16
Cam carrier gasket

Alfa have also said that I need to replace the lifters, too - and that's where the bulk of the cost appears to be :-(

Autolusso · #2 (**Post Link**) 01-05-12

We can fix it for £800 inc VAT or supply your guy the bits

Ned

fishy-steve · #3 (**Post Link**) 01-05-12

Bad news.

Was it the usual water pump failure? What mileage did it fail at?

davealfa11 · #4 (**Post Link**) 01-05-12

Originally Posted by rossedwards

...Sods Law, it happened the week before I was going to book it in for a change :-(

Doing 55 down a dual carriageway (just come out of a 50 zone with Gatsos), lost all power, servos, steering etc.

It's now at my tame mechanics in Cheshunt and has been dismantled, but they've been quoted over £1100 from Alfa for parts - sounds like a right rip-off to me!

My mechanic's suggested that I get online and source the (OEM) parts myself for cheaper... so, any recommendations on suppliers? It looks like I need the usual:

Cam belt kit

Water pump

Rockers x 16

Cam carrier gasket

Alfa have also said that I need to replace the lifters, too - and that's where the bulk of the cost appears to be :-(

lifters depend up on if your car has newer ones i believe ..400(no lifters) should see parts taken care of

Pauljames1971 · #5 (**Post Link**) 01-05-12

Thats a bugger mate , i bought my gt ,the seller told me that the belt had being done but said that he thought the water pump had being done. i took no chances with mine so when i took the covers off found the pump had failed and had caused the belt to start to run off the outer edge !!luckly for me the belt never came off, as i am a auto engineer i was able to do the job at cost ,but it could of being alot worse. hope you get your car back on the road soon .

tomfromtelford · #6 (**Post Link**) 01-05-12

I had the same thing replaced 3 years back on my jtdm for £550

Found that you coud get followers compete or just the rockers, massive price difference. (excuse me if I got terms wrong) but it was the equivalent of 1/3 rd the price per valve.

Shop around for a good indie : e.g. Auto lusso etc...

rossedwards · #7 (**Post Link**) 02-05-12

Thanks to Ned and James at Autolusso, there's a kit of parts en route to my mechanic (for a very reasonable price) :-)

I found out a couple of months ago (at around 68K) that the belt *hadn't* been changed at the 72K service (carried out at 54K)... I was somewhat slack in booking the ol' girl in for the work and so, at 73,386 miles she gave up.

If there's one thing I've learned, it's never take a service book at face value... And avoid costly work by getting stuff done sooner. OK, if there's *two* things I've learned...

...nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition ;-)

benmols · #8 (**Post Link**) 02-05-12

wow! 11k for parts! My garage is doing cambelt + water pump changes for £350. JCS Kegworth just outside of Derby.
http://www.jcs-kegworth.co.uk/offers...AMBELT_OFFERS/

tomfromtelford · #9 (**Post Link**) 02-05-12

That's the norm for jtds. This is a bit more than a change.

agent smith · #10 (**Post Link**) 03-05-12

Originally Posted by fishy-steve

Was it the usual water pump failure? What mileage did it fail at?

It would be good to know the answers to these questions.

rossedwards · #11 (**Post Link**) 03-05-12

Yup, it was the water pump that went, taking everything else with it.

Originally Posted by rossedwards

I found out a couple of months ago (at around 68K) that the belt *hadn't* been changed at the 72K service (carried out at 54K)... I was somewhat slack in booking the ol' girl in for the work and so, at 73,386 miles she gave up.

:-)

156 Villian · #12 (**Post Link**) 03-05-12

See post 7. It failed at 73,386 miles

Simon_S · #13 (**Post Link**) 03-05-12

Originally Posted by benmols

wow! 11k for parts! My garage is doing cambelt + water pump changes for £350. JCS Kegworth just outside of Derby.
ALFA CAMBELT OFFERS

Why do they charge more for the 2.4 than the 1.9? The job is exactly the same.

tomfromtelford · #14 (**Post Link**) 03-05-12

Mine was a straight belt snap @ 61K

energy · #15 (**Post Link**) 04-05-12

they think that becouse you u are driving car with a bigger engine, you automaticly have more money than other with smaaler engines

the same thing - the part from 3rd series bmw costs 50 but the same part 100% the same but now its for 5th series and it costs 75

Autolusso · #16 (**Post Link**) 04-05-12

Originally Posted by Simon_S

Why do they charge more for the 2.4 than the 1.9? The job is exactly the same.

Because it is more difficult and takes longer

Ned

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