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Old 19-10-11
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156 2.5 V6 Not Starting or starter engaging

Hi s reg 2.5 v6 24v Everything worked fine checked and sorted immolbizer fault
car was starting fine
then all of a sudden just a click from the starter motoer when the key is turned
I have checked stater wires they look ok
Please help anyone good ideas
Which earths / leads to check 1st
any relays faults?
or starter motor u/s which is a pig of a job eh lol

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try rocking car with it in gear just in case it aint jammed
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Battery OK?
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Have you checked the battery cables inside the fusebox on top of the battery? Mine did the same as yours and the starter motor cable had failed in there.
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At least with it being a cf2 you can actually get the starter motor out if it turns out to be goosed.
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Originally Posted by davealfa11 View Post
try rocking car with it in gear just in case it aint jammed

Careful.

Apparently, you may put your cam timing out by doing this -- the cam belt is only intended to run in one direction, and I am told rocking the car in gear may pop the belt by a tooth...
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Starter motor removal takes around 2.5 hours on a cf2 v6. Essentially the procedure is:

Remove intake trunking

Remove all the oil vapour gubbins and pipes off the back of the inlet manifold

Remove battery and battery tray

drain cooling system

Remove stat

disconnect the gear linkage and remove the mounting plates

Remove front exhaust pipe

Unbolt rear exhust manifold and slide clear

Unbolt starter motor, disconnect wiring and lift out.
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Well Happy V6 Starter Motor Issue THANK YOU

Hi All people Alfa Guys who are helping me out
I will give an update so far
I tried rocking the car in gear but no joy
I have tried tapping the starter solonoid with a longbar while some1 was holding in the start position still no joy just the same

I am going to look at the fusebox wiring from the battery soon and will update
Thank you again to all for your assistance and posts
But please keep them coming
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Update no luck all cables checked continuity all ok all working fine the cables
tightened starter nuts and rechecked still none start
any ideas
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If it turns out that you need a new starter, I have a spare one. Open to offers, just drop me a PM.
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Try removing the battery and swapping with a known good one from a friend/ family member/ neighbour of similar amp/hr rate temporarily to check and see if it cranks. It sounds like you may have voltage but not enough ampage to crank, thus the "click".

If you have had a recent immobilisor fault and continously tried to crank it over, it could have wrecked the battery cells. Or burnt out the starter motor... Try the simplest check first before blaming it automatically on the starter motor though, you may be surprised
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Thanks to you all for the kind replies and info
I had the jump leads on it from another car as the battery was not 100% just to make sure it just made the click stronger


How much would the starter be is it new or used thanks ?
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Originally Posted by VeroTheStallion View Post
Thanks to you all for the kind replies and info
I had the jump leads on it from another car as the battery was not 100% just to make sure it just made the click stronger


How much would the starter be is it new or used thanks ?
also can fry ya ecu
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Wave Picture Please Starter Wiring this car

Hi Any chance any one has the above
a picture of the starter motor fitted with the wires attached
I just wasnt to make sure everything is 100% correct and where it should be
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Still think you are barking up the wrong tree mate... sorry!
Experience tells me mate that using jump leads will not suffice... There is only so much current you can transfer at any given time through them, thus you are still getting the same click...Been there, tried that.... Cranking amps needs to be stored, not transfered.... My brother in law found this out when we tried to start his 2.4 JTD with jumper cables on a Citroen 2.0 HDi... After 30 minutes, nothing , just the click... I removed my battery and swapped it with his.... Started first time!

Like I said, the only safe way to make sure is swap the battery of similar Amp/Hr rate

Please bear in mind here that I am not saying it is definately the battery and not the starter motor... It's just that I want to actually save your money and not spend it for you.... I would hate it if a fellow Alfisti had to chew on replacing a starter motor when a simple battery swap over could possibly avert it.

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Hi Did you ever solve your problem? I would like some feedback as it might give me a clue to my dillema. Having the same symptoms. Have tried with a 100% battery from my 318 and still nothing, just the click of the starter.
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Only thing I can add at this juncture is to check the earth to the engine - a jump lead from the battery neg terminal to the block or something bolted to it would suffice.....
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any feedback on your no starter thread?

I have a 156 TS 1.8 2001 which after flattening by stupid mistake the battery by leaving the radio on for over 24hours or more I can't start the engine.
The RAC man recommended to take the car to a garage in Reading while a member advised to use a strong jump lead. The same advise was given to you by the same member at the very end of your thread.

Any positive results? As I just ordered from Amazon the tool I wonder if I can have some success using this method.

Thanks for any feedback!


Cheers!

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Originally Posted by carlodigiorgio View Post
I have a 156 TS 1.8 2001 which after flattening by stupid mistake the battery by leaving the radio on for over 24hours or more I can't start the engine.
The RAC man recommended to take the car to a garage in Reading while a member advised to use a strong jump lead. The same advise was given to you by the same member at the very end of your thread.

Any positive results? As I just ordered from Amazon the tool I wonder if I can have some success using this method.

Thanks for any feedback!


Cheers!

Carlo

Yeah, boring aren't I? Its just that its a very easy check, and its surprising how many times it solves the problem......

Unfortunately a lot of people don't post to say what the end result of the problem was - shame as its always good to know the solution......
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