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#1 ·
Hi guys, will a CF1 engine fit in my 2002 1.6 147??

I know the manifolds will need changing over and cam cover but is the engine basically the same?

Thanks in advance, Pete
 
#2 ·
With work, yes it should.

You'll need to change the exhaust cam sprocket as the cam sensor ring on the back of it is different on the later engines.

Be aware that the head gasket is different on the earlier engines as well, so if it ever needs changed you'll need a CF1 one.

The CF1s had a separate temp sensor and gauge sender, but just leave the sender in the head (to keep the coolant in :lol:).

Is the 147 a 1.6 as well?
 
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With work, yes it should.

You'll need to change the exhaust cam sprocket as the cam sensor ring on the back of it is different on the later engines.

OK COOL, THE CAM SENSOR TOO I TAKE IT??

Be aware that the head gasket is different on the earlier engines as well, so if it ever needs changed you'll need a CF1 one.

YARP :D

The CF1s had a separate temp sensor and gauge sender, but just leave the sender in the head (to keep the coolant in :lol:).

IS THERE A COOLANT SENSOR ON THE LATER 1.6 THEN? WHERE??



Is the 147 a 1.6 as well?
YES:thumbs:

THANKS GUYS, :thumbs:;)
 
#3 ·
Plenty of threads on here about this, essentially yes. Do your homework as its more than just manifolds etc even the camshaft sensor has a different connector plug as with most of the sensors on an early engine.Different front water pipe etc etc. Change the lot and you will have piece of mind it does not take that long whilst both engines are out. A few engine changes ago i put a 1.6 engine in a 147 and it was great till you really hit the gas then it threw out smoke.Firstly i thought it was piston rings but this didnt make sense as it didnt do it in the 146, turned out to be the inlet manifold gasket by the oil flow to the sensor for the variator.Ever since during changes ive ensured the inlet manifold gasket is new or almost perfect.
 
#4 ·
The new metal inlet gaskets seem pretty cack in my experience, and need additional sealing. The older composite-type, with their own sealant stuff, are better.

Also very worthwhile doing is removing the exhaust manifold studs and sealing them with loctite. They can pass oil into the exhaust, which gets a bit whiffy. Don't ask me how I know....! :lol:
 
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