Autodelta turbo???

06-04-2003

Hi all,

This is my first post so apologies if this has been asked before (I have searched and there have been a few similar posts) but I am gonna ask again. I am very interested in the autodelta turbo due to my 147 being seriously slow. I am in need of some BHP, and have even toyed with the idea of trading in the 147 for something faster (my boss recently got a Leon Cupra R which is pretty quick). But I can't seem to find anything thta looks as good (exterior & interior) as the 147. Has anybody, or knows of anyone who has, had the Autodelta conversion done??? I know Dre has had the Novitec compressor conversion on his 147 but I hear he has had trouble with the cruise control on his 147. I have read both reviews in AutoItalia and EVO mags (just out) and they seem very positive. Any responses, help, advice etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Dan

G-147 · 06-04-2003

you can always get a 147 GTA 3.2 V6 24V!!!!!!!! wink

06-04-2003

I wish I could afford a GTA - it's a fantastic car. But its just not financially realistic yet - but the turbo option is!!!

Justin Fox · 07-04-2003

Dougie, I hear ya. For a good few months I thought I had bought the wrong car. It does 0-100km/hr in 9.1 seconds. I always knew this. Why did I even bother to look at a car so slow? Well it was the whole package that sucked me in. An italian car, revy engine with lovely engine sound, great styling, awesome interior with Bose stereo, ABS, Airbags it had the works and the Integra Type R, Nissan 200SX and WRX all took a seat on the bench.

But I hated how slow it was. Every f&*ker out there is beating me off the lights. I wanted to sell it for a Supra Turbo, got very close to it but in the end decided not to.

If the Turbo Kit was available here in Australia I would already have had it installed!!! DO IT!

07-04-2003

Hi Justin, Like I said I am seriously thinking about it. My girlfriend has even given me the go ahead to spend the cash!! The only thing that will stop me is if any of you guys convince that it is not the right thing to do or that I should perhaps go down a different path to get more BHP.
A Supra Turbo = very fast, but no where near as beautiful as the 147!! After looking at some of your older posts I have no doubt that if you could get the turbo in Australia you would have installed by now. The trouble is I can't seem to find anyone in the UK, at least not on this forum, that has had the work done.

07-04-2003

You could email Autodelta and ask them if any of their customers would be willing to give them a reference.

07-04-2003

hi dougie,

when i was in london to get my GTV ECU remapped at Autodelta, jano (the boss of autodelta) took me for a spin in his 147 turbo. I think it was a 1.6 turbo but i assure you its a totally different beast. its acceleration was awesome comparable to a GTA.......personally i think its a good upgrade.
the downside is that they need at least 10 days to do the complete job.

LaTiNo · 07-04-2003

Hi, another option would be to chip your car in combination with a new camshaft from Colombo-bariani.
On the Squadra-tuning site (a specialised Alfa-Romeo tuner) you can see the performance gain (+25bhp and +50nm).
Look here.
You could also get a sports-exhaust with it.

It's not as much performance gain as with a turbo but a lot cheaper (1100 euro's).
And you lose your car for only one day.

http://www.squadra-tuning.com/2016-CB1-koppel.jpg

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dougie:
Hi Justin, Like I said I am seriously thinking about it. My girlfriend has even given me the go ahead to spend the cash!! The only thing that will stop me is if any of you guys convince that it is not the right thing to do or that I should perhaps go down a different path to get more BHP.
A Supra Turbo = very fast, but no where near as beautiful as the 147!! After looking at some of your older posts I have no doubt that if you could get the turbo in Australia you would have installed by now. The trouble is I can't seem to find anyone in the UK, at least not on this forum, that has had the work done.<hr /></blockquote>

07-04-2003

Dougie
Definitely go for the Turbo option!! Especially since you'v gotten the all important g/friend permission!!

And use autodelta, anyone else will most likely mess it up!

Although the cam option is a good one, I think that if cash no object, why settle for second best (ie you'l always be wishing for that extra power...)?? You'l always be beat by other turbo cars, so you may as well go for the best!

Good luck and let us know what you decide!!

Later
Shaheed

Kristian Benning · 07-04-2003

As Latino says why not try some smaller mods 1st?
Try the Autodelta freeflow intake which should give you an extra 5BHP or maybe go the whole hog and get a heat shielded pod filter (maybe 10BHP extra), then get a remap (I used Monza) which should add another 10BHP and then a new backbox and centre which again should add another 10BHP.
Add it all together and you get an extra 30BHP for £900.

07-04-2003

If you're going to power up the 147 TS, upgrade the brakes and suspension as well.
The brakes are not up to driving tracks days in std. performance 147's, they can manage some heavy braking for a couple of minutes and then fade away.
Suspension is something I'd recommend to al 147 drivers as the std. setup is even softer than a vw golf (what a shame).

07-04-2003

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Kristian Benning:
As Latino says why not try some smaller mods 1st?
Try the Autodelta freeflow intake which should give you an extra 5BHP or maybe go the whole hog and get a heat shielded pod filter (maybe 10BHP extra), then get a remap (I used Monza) which should add another 10BHP and then a new backbox and centre which again should add another 10BHP.
Add it all together and you get an extra 30BHP for £900.<hr /></blockquote>Kristian, compared to the proces your quote, for about GBP3,000 you get over 200bhp (230bhp, if I am not mistaken)....I still say, if you got the cash, then splash out on a turbo for the 147!! Besides, I'd be keen to know the results (as would many others I imagine!)!

You could do all the little mods....and then....whaddaya know...you still feel your car is too slow!! Also, some mods may not be compatable with the Turbo option (for instance lowering your compression ratio), in which case you may have wasted some cash....Also, the turbo conversion may feature some of the mods you would have already done, but with different specs, which mean forking out for a similar mod...when turbocharging!

07-04-2003

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Sillyspeed:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by G-147:er... autodelta first... exhausts, remaps, induction, camshaft..etc etc turbo if needs be!!!

Why you getting worried... whats your sele coupled to.. 2.0 or 2.5?? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Doesnt matter with a turbo!!!
You see... i'm the type of person who would consider turbo charging!! <IMG SRC="smilies/cool.gif" border="0"><hr /></blockquote>Well my baby is beautiful (2.0 TS, the only engine that they do Selespeed with at the moment), but I've already made enquiries with Autodelta myself as to having a supercharger or turbo fitted. I figured if I had a re-map, cams, induction kit, I'd only wish I'd gone the whole hog in the 1st place. Have you done your homework on all this, what do you reckon on the options?
<IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0"><hr /></blockquote>Hope this works.....trying to post a reply from a different topic area (search under turbocharging)...as can be seen someone already wished they did it all!

10-04-2003

Hi all,
Just a quick update. I have got an appointment at 10 am on Sat morning to go and see Autodelta to talk through what they can do for me, go for a blast in their 147 turbo and also have a look at the body kit on their 147. I am very tempted by the turbo option but after speaking with Autodelta they have told me that the Selespeed can only have the 205 bhp turbo kit fitted, not the 230 bhp as stated on their website for a 2.0 (I know it doesn't actually say Selespeed but I just presumed). I tried to squeeze them as to why but didn't really get an answer. This is only 55 bhp increase for a lot of cash!! I will wait and see what I think of their 147 beofre making a decision.

Mr T · 10-04-2003

Dougie you won't be disappointed with the 1.6 Turbo Jano has as his demo car. I was luck enough to spend the weekend with it, when it was on lend to AO. The lighter front end meant the 215 tyres had plenty of grip. Just with the new bumpers and side skirts everyone's head was turning. The best bit was very Golf GTi trying to burn us off, there faces would have been a picture if you could have seen them afterwards. Overall the car is well balanced and the lighter front end would make even the 1.6 stiff competition for the GTA.

As for the strength of the engine afterwards, I hear Jano's driving is a demonstration of how strong they are.

10-04-2003

i dont think its worth all that money for 50 BHP when with exhaust, remap and air box you get 30BHP at a third of the price.

Reuven · 11-04-2003

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Justin Fox:
Dougie, I hear ya. For a good few months I thought I had bought the wrong car. It does 0-100km/hr in 9.1 seconds. I always knew this. Why did I even bother to look at a car so slow? Well it was the whole package that sucked me in. An italian car, revy engine with lovely engine sound, great styling, awesome interior with Bose stereo, ABS, Airbags it had the works and the Integra Type R, Nissan 200SX and WRX all took a seat on the bench.

But I hated how slow it was. Every f&*ker out there is beating me off the lights. I wanted to sell it for a Supra Turbo, got very close to it but in the end decided not to.

If the Turbo Kit was available here in Australia I would already have had it installed!!! DO IT!<hr /></blockquote>I think I would join you on that one Justin! Love to convert my 147 to a J12 any day!

12-04-2003

Just got back from Autodelta. Jano took me for a spin in the 147 Turbo - it is awesome. The acceleration, the handling, the body kit, the sound. The car we went out in was a 1.6 with 198 bhp!! At one point the car was going like a rocket and I peered over to look at the rev counter and we weren't even at 5000rpm. I expected the test car to have the Brembo brakes but it just had the cross-drilled discs, pads and braided hoses - even with all that bhp the stopping power was pretty good.
I am definitely going to go ahead with the turbo option but it is just a question of what else I get as well, I wasn't really a fan of the body kit until I saw it in the flesh. It has certainly grown on me. I am going to sit down and have a think about it - any ideas???

VeloceMitch · 12-04-2003

Dougie
I just joined AROC, and in my joining pack was one of the club magazines with an article on the 147 J12 Turbo. I will scan it in and E Mail it if you send me a PM with your E Mail address on it.
havnt read it myself yet but it covers a full 3 pages, and looks good.

BTW I was very impressed with the AROC stuff, and think its well worth the money. Its not all string back gloves and flat caps!